[kictanet] Fwd: information on .africa and the lies surrounding an individual's push

Thu Aug 19 17:47:11 EAT 2010

This ICANN board ... it pays alot ?

just wondering :)

On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Njeri
<njeri.rionge at igniteconsulting.co.ke>wrote:

> They are more on this very list that claim being on the board of ICANN.
> That never were, not withstanding that they can be in the future.
>
> In my humble opinion, the rest is politic's.
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> On Aug 19, 2010, at 2:39 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe < <blongwe at gmail.com>
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> Walu,
>
> Your point is noted, however .africa is not just another TLD - it is in the
> same realm as .eu i.e. a regional domain that represents multiple
> jurisdictions - in the same manner that .eu was granted at the behest of the
> EU/EC - subsequent to a process that brought forward the buy-in of major
> stakeholder in the EU, including Governments, operators and local internet
> community - similarly, Africa needs to have undergone a processs whereby
> there is broad buy-in/consensus behind whoever it is that is making the
> pitch to ICANN.
>
> Having said that - I for one, will NEVER support anyone who tries to gain
> leverage/support by using lies:
> 1) She has never been an ICANN board member - despite repeated brazen
> claims to the office
> 2) She has never been given a formal (let alone written) endorsement by the
> AU
> 3) She feels threatened by reputable and legitimate African internet bodies
> and went to great lengths to sabotage AfriNIC's proposed Addist meeting by
> telling lies to the government and Ethiopia telecoms which prompted them
> pulling out 2 months before the meeting. Only to find out after
> consultations that they have been fed a bunch of lies and ended up losing
> face both at a local and global perspective.
>
> My two cents,
>
> Brian
>
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Njeri <<njeri.rionge at igniteconsulting.co.ke><njeri.rionge at igniteconsulting.co.ke>
> njeri.rionge at igniteconsulting.co.ke> wrote:
>
>> Walu, Finally common sense becomes common sense as we know it.
>>
>> I opted to saying nothing before, will continue to do so. But I needed to
>> note some sense in the thread and urge people to read in between the lines
>> closely.
>>
>> Cross the T's and dot the I's.
>>
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>> On Aug 19, 2010, at 11:28 AM, Barrack Otieno < <otieno.barrack at gmail.com><otieno.barrack at gmail.com>
>> otieno.barrack at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Very democratic comments Walu :-)
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Walubengo J < <jwalu at yahoo.com><jwalu at yahoo.com><jwalu at yahoo.com>
>> jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  I really dont know who this lady is - other than having seeing her at
>>> the Kenyan IGF where she also pushed for the dot.Africa initiative. Indeed
>>> as Pierre mentions elsewhere, there's a parallel push @
>>> <http://www.dotafrica.org/home.html><http://www.dotafrica.org/home.html><http://www.dotafrica.org/home.html>
>>> http://www.dotafrica.org/home.html which I believe has the support of
>>> AfNOG, AfrNIC, AfTLD (the  Af* organisations).
>>>
>>> However and I stand to be corrected -  I think the ICANN process is quite
>>> open and transparent and we therefore cannot stop any bidder pushing to have
>>> a top level domain like dot.Africa (free for all approach that ofcourse has
>>> had its advantages and disadvantages).
>>>
>>> So whereas I support and understand the need have dot.africa under the
>>> family and philosophy of Af* organisations, we really have no control over
>>> other bidders trying to get there first. Maybe we should just up our game
>>> and get the domain before the competition.
>>>
>>> walu.
>>> disclaimer: comments shared are personal and not the view of the
>>> organisations I am affiliated with.
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On *Wed, 8/18/10, Solomon Mburu Kamau < <solo.mburu at gmail.com><solo.mburu at gmail.com><solo.mburu at gmail.com>
>>> solo.mburu at gmail.com>* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Solomon Mburu Kamau < <solo.mburu at gmail.com><solo.mburu at gmail.com><solo.mburu at gmail.com>
>>> solo.mburu at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: information on .africa and the lies
>>> surrounding an individual's push
>>> To: <jwalu at yahoo.com> <jwalu at yahoo.com> <jwalu at yahoo.com>jwalu at yahoo.com
>>> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" < <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke><kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke><kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>> Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 11:34 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> @ Njenga,
>>> It's not really about who is onlist or not, but during the just concluded
>>> EAIGF in Uganda one 'iron lady' has been claiming to speak on behalf of AU
>>> and that there are some endorsements made that she presented to this
>>> regional forum, which turned out to be a sham!
>>>
>>> I hope Brian my explanation is right.
>>>
>>> On 18 August 2010 18:24, Njenga Gathecha <<http://mc/[email protected]><njenga.mkenya at gmail.com><njenga.mkenya at gmail.com>
>>> njenga.mkenya at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all. I think the best thing to do is to have all the members listed
>>> somewhere and then in case of doubt, listers can consult the list. This
>>> would ward off cons who may seek to exploit innocents.
>>>
>>> Thanks for pointing this out now.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <<http://mc/[email protected]><blongwe at gmail.com><blongwe at gmail.com>
>>> blongwe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Just received this. Apparently she has formally been propagating lies
>>> about being on the ICANN board etc.... and even put up counterfiet letters
>>> on her website - this verges on criminal! What is her interest?
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> ------------------------
>>>
>>> Brian,
>>>
>>> here is some info for you.. she constructed this whole thing on lies. you
>>> can judge for yourself. I did not want to spam all but I sent this to a few
>>> key people.  check this:
>>>
>>> - there is no African Union Authority!!!! do you really believe that the
>>> * Chairman of the AU Commission* will have claimed to write on behalf of
>>> a non existent authority and give her a letter in that sense? so maybe she
>>> should explain to people why she has a 'weird' letter on her website. Check
>>> her website and you will see.
>>>
>>> - here is an email that tells you how she lies! she actually took me to
>>> the ombudsman at ICANN in 2007, complaining that I was preventing her from
>>> doing dot africa, copied the whole board at the time --- all her claims were
>>> immediately dismissed when I sent the letters and emails to the ombudsman,
>>> of the same caliber as the below that she had been sending to regional
>>> organisations and bodies. My fault was to have written to all organisations,
>>> as the Regional Liaison, to dismiss her claims of ICANN endorsement of dot
>>> africa and her being on the board.
>>>
>>> - she keeps saying ICANN is endorsing dot africa! how can ICANN endorse a
>>> TLD?? how can ICANN be judge and party???? she is supposed to have been at
>>> the GNSO council and ICANN and understand what she is talking about!!!! she
>>> has been in the ICANN process for the past 5 years and still has no idea how
>>> all this functions.
>>>
>>> I let you judge. The woman does not have her wits together I think.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>   *Sophia Bekele <sophiabekele at yahoo.com<http://mc/[email protected]>
>>> >*
>>>
>>> 30/08/2006 01:48 PM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   Subject
>>>
>>> Re:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello <name removed>,
>>>
>>> I hope your vacation is going well.  As per discussion, I thought I would
>>> convey someof what is on my plate that may be of mutual interest.
>>>
>>> Presently, other than my private projects/business interests, I also
>>> serve on the board of ICANN, the international internet governance
>>> organization.  At this stage, I have outlined few projects in addition to an
>>> initiative that could quickly put under incubation.  Any or all of these
>>> could serve as a basis for mutual collaboration.
>>>
>>> Generally speaking the projects span ICT, public sector governance,
>>> regional integration, internet governance etc..
>>>
>>> The priority project I mentioned to UN Undersecretary General was that of
>>> dot.africa (.Africa) which he expressed great interest.  Thus, there
>>> will be a need to synergize and align strategies of possible project
>>> collaboration.
>>>
>>> Dot.Africa is an initiative supported by ICANN,  that aims at unifying
>>> and consolidating the African Information Society and presence within the
>>> Internet as distinct from other Continental communities.  As such, there now
>>> exists dot.EU (.EU),  dot.Asia.(.ASIA) and dot.LatinAmerica (.LA) as
>>> similar ongoing initiatives.  The present paradigm is to halt Africans
>>> marginalization in this age of globalization.  This is actually one of the
>>> goals of NEPAD, which of course is an initiative that is already endorsed b
>>> the UN.  There are no prices for guessing what would happen if dot.
>>> Africa is not also initiated and implemented at the same time that other
>>> Continental  communities on the net have been put in place.
>>>
>>> To get this of the ground, it appears from the experiences of the others,
>>> a minimum of 13 countries in Africawould have to come on board.  The
>>> endorsement for UNECA would of course be helpful.   This initiative would
>>> require a proposal to be distributed to the potential participating
>>> countries.  UNECA’s help would be crucial in communicating who might wish to
>>> participate.  Countries that have already have ongoing National policies
>>> that relate ICT as a strategic tool for National development would be the
>>> primary candidates.   Being something that would turn into a Continental
>>> initiative, it is rewarding at best for the UNECA to play an active role in
>>> this initial stage.
>>>
>>> As an African representative on ICANN board, I have taken the initiative
>>> to coordinate and see the successful implementation of the project.  I
>>> believe therefore, we should have a meeting to progress this further.  I
>>> suggest we meet ASAP to get this moving, as time is of essence to the extent
>>> that the application for the domain name must be submitted before January
>>> 2007.
>>>
>>> However due to our travel schedules, we should arrange a teleconference
>>> meeting that is mutually convenient for all within the next two weeks.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Sophia
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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