[kictanet] Red Card for the Sheikhs

Tue Apr 27 10:51:03 EAT 2010

Have you read Article 24 subsection 4 of our soon to be new constitution or
are you one of the 90% of Kenyans who has not read the draft for themselves?
What does it say before anyone comments that SUPKEM is not within their
special rights in the coming constitution? Why slander SUPKEM after it
ensured the CoE & parliament entrenched & enlarged their faith in the draft
constitution? The document is religious genius by SUPKEM.

Superstition (believing you know what is in the draft before reading it)
does not equal knowledge.

On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Okech <okechjr at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Emmanuel,
> I guess you are right, we are not yet under the new constitution. The
> constitution we want to oust support this barbaric act and it looks like it
> does not support right to information. we must for sure kick this old
> constitution out.
>
> Regards,
> Okech JM
> My blog <http://james-okech.blogspot.com>
>
> --- On *Mon, 4/26/10, emmanuel.khisa at kadet.co.ke <
> emmanuel.khisa at kadet.co.ke>* wrote:
>
>
> From: emmanuel.khisa at kadet.co.ke <emmanuel.khisa at kadet.co.ke>
>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Red Card for the Sheikhs
> To: okechjr at yahoo.com
>
> Cc: "'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 9:48 PM
>
> Did I miss some news?
>
> I thought what I happened in North Eastern (Mandera) to be specific was a
> decree that even the Kenyan chief's proclaim from time to time in
> "Christian" Kenya. When this happens it affects both Christian and Muslim
> youth alike.
>
> I am bound to be corrected but this is happening not under the new
> Constitution but the current one and so my question is what has it got to do
> with the new constitution? What has it got to do with the Kadhi's courts or
> any of those parts being contested?
>
> I really think that as reasonable and kind Christ followers, we must ask
> ourselves, what's Christ do?
>
> Regards,
>
> Emmanuel
> PS: The views expressed here are my own..
>
>
> >  -------Original Message-------
> >  From: Harry Delano <harry at comtelsys.co.ke<http://mc/[email protected]>
> >
> >  To: emmanuel.khisa at kadet.co.ke<http://mc/[email protected]>
> >  Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke<http://mc/[email protected]>
> >
> >  Subject: Re: [kictanet] Red Card for the Sheikhs
> >  Sent: Apr 26 '10 22:26
> >
> >  You mean, there is something called Sharia law, in this  country...???
> >
> >  Last time I checked, it's the kind of law applied and dictated  by
> >  fundamentalists
> >  upon hapless citizenry, with no regard  whatsoever for the very basic of
> >  basic
> >  human rights..
> >
> >  So, who is fooling who..?  Next thing, internet will be  outlawed in
> that
> >  section
> >  of the nation. Who knows where next. And this is at a time we  working
> to
> >  open up space and bridge the national divide. Time to smell  coffee...
> >
> >  Harry
> >
> >
> >  --------------------
> >  FROM:  kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke<http://mc/[email protected]>
> >  [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry <kictanet-bounces%2Bharry>=
> comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke<http://mc/[email protected]>]
> ON
> >  BEHALF OF S.Murigi Muraya
> >  SENT: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 1:09  AM
> >  TO: harry at comtelsys.co.ke <http://mc/[email protected]>
> >  CC: KICTAnet ICT Policy  Discussions
> >  SUBJECT: Re: [kictanet] Red Card for the  Sheikhs
> >
> >
> >  Please note Article 24 Subsection 4 of our soon to be new  constitution
> >  limits how the Bill of Rights may apply to the one religion the  Kenyan
> >  state is funding with the approval of Kenyans who vote YES!
> >
> >  Of  course the Kenyan media is too busy slandering Churches to point
> this
> >  out.
> >
> >
> >  On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 12:52 AM, Wainaina Mungai <[LINK:
> >  mailto:wainaina at madeinkenya.org<http://mc/[email protected]>]
> wainaina at madeinkenya.org <http://mc/[email protected]>>
> wrote:
> >  The recent move by Muslim Sheikhs to enforce Sharia Law,   outlaw DSTV,
> >  video dens & related activities in Mandera could not have   come at a
> >  more unfortunate time. The support they have received from   SUPREM
> >  (Supreme Council of Kenya Muslims) further complicates the debate   on
> >  the "continued" inclusion of Kadhi Courts in our   Constitution.
> >
> >  Now that the SUPKEM has proved to support such apparent   'treason' in
> >  my secular nation,  President Kibaki and Prime Minister   Odinga must
> >  also commit to ensuring that religion and religious courts are   omitted
> >  from the new constitution. That is the pact they must sign with the   NO
> >  campaign if a YES vote is to sail through without question.   No
> >  religion, especially fundamentalist Islam, should enjoy the   privileges
> >  of my hard-earned taxes to propagate religious activities that   may
> >  disintegrate into such treasonable actions as by the Sheikhs.
> >
> >  My   vote would easily change to a resounding "NO" unless I am assured
> >  by the   Constitution that no Sheikh or Buddist monk, Hindu priest or
> >  Christian   cleric will get away with the absurd audacity of attempting
> >  to determine   where I watch my Supersport matches, what I drink as I do
> >  so; where and   what I can smoke or drink in an independent secular
> >  KENYA.
> >
> >  No   religion should 'get it twisted' on its place in secular Kenya and
> >  no   loopholes should allow Sheikhs or SUPKEM to get away with such
> >  treasonable   actions.
> >
> >  Regards,
> >  Wainaina
> >
> >  --
> >  Sent from my mobile   device
> >
> >  Wainaina Mungai
> >  -----
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> >
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