[kictanet] cyber security

Sat Apr 17 13:27:26 EAT 2010

Gichuki Shalowly ? that is not proper language for a multistakeholder
forum, our interests are diverse remember ICT's are about people
processes and technology, i guess this debate should be based on that
premise, security is relative and means different things to different
people, i look forwad to this debate on cyber security focussing on
those area, even the fencing issues in Malili are part of Cyber
security and i congratulate Robert for raising such issues, technology
has never been a problem it is designed and tested to solve problems
we are the problem

Thank you

On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Gichuki John Chuksjonia
<chuksjonia at gmail.com> wrote:
> I hope we don't look shallowly on this one.
>
>
> On 4/16/10, Harry Delano <harry at comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thanks Muriuki,
>>
>> I really was looking forward to hearing from you and other experts in this
>> area, on this important subject.
>>
>> We await keenly, for guidance in this debate. I suppose, some time back
>> Mr. J Wals. did some moderation on this topic also, last year. We can
>> do well to use some of that material..
>>
>> Regards,
>> Harry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke] On
>> Behalf Of muriuki mureithi
>> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 8:53 PM
>> To: harry at comtelsys.co.ke
>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>> Subject: [kictanet] cyber security
>>
>> Dr Ndemo
>> We are in the process of launching a serious discussion on information/cyber
>> security policy  on the list shortly.  This will be based and build on the
>> draft policy that you circulated earlier this month .  we are finalising the
>> practical issues  on the moderation  of the discussion  as per Kictanet
>> practice
>>
>> Rgds
>> Muriuki Mureithi
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: kictanet-bounces+mureithi=summitstrategies.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+mureithi=summitstrategies.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.k
>> e] On Behalf Of bitange at jambo.co.ke
>> Sent: 16 April 2010 19:27
>> To: mureithi at summitstrategies.co.ke
>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] FYI - Malili to be fenced
>>
>> Ikua,
>> Thank you.  I have tried to have the forum discuss the important policy on
>> cyber security but only one person made some comments.  It is unfortunate
>> that we focus on issues that fall within the purview of auditors.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>> Ndemo.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> I think we are getting a bit lost on this debate on Malili.
>>> As far as management goes, there are the strategic issues, the
>>> tactical issues and the procedural issues. If we look out for every
>>> little matter of procedure that is being done, then we lose the big
>>> picture.
>>> This forum would do well to discuss the strategic issues that the
>>> Government gets into, and sometimes the tactical ones. otherwise we
>>> will soon be wanting to find out what was the gauge of the wire that
>>> was used to fence, and how many metres apart the poles were.
>>> It would be good to have a rough idea of the kind of infrastructure
>>> the government intends to put up there. Some investors would actually
>>> want this info so that they can be planning on how to take advantage
>>> of the opportunities that will arise.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Quoting bitange at jambo.co.ke:
>>>
>>>> Mr. Kwach,
>>>> The Government has no problem with its neighbours in Malili.  Indeed
>>>> every local person supports this National project.  It is not for
>>>> Wakambas only.  However, the peasants who owned the land where the
>>>> park is to be built have a problem with the directors on the sharing
>>>> of the money.  They have taken the matter to court.  You recall we
>>>> discussed this matter and had it settled at a town hall meeting.  I
>>>> shall be wasting public resources if I kept on responding to issues
>>>> that have been dealt with.
>>>>
>>>> On fencing.  At the height of Government land grabbing and
>>>> encroachment.  There was a policy to fence Government land.  It will
>>>> not take too long before you see squarters on Malili if we do not
>>>> manage it well.  Those who will invade may not be aware of GPS or any
>>>> technology.  Fencing or no fencing, I am between two rocks.  Any
>>>> decision can be criticised.  We have chosen to fence.  As always I
>>>> take full responsibility.
>>>>
>>>> Knowing this country the way I understand it, I shall be proven right.
>>>>
>>>> Ndemo.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my BlackBerryÂ®
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: "Akich Kwach" <kwach at archway-productions.com>
>>>> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 11:25:43
>>>> To: <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
>>>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] FYI - Malili to be fenced
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