[kictanet] Who is ICT Board? - Capacity Building
godera at skyweb.co.ke
godera at skyweb.co.ke
Wed Apr 7 11:39:28 EAT 2010
Listers,
I think this is a very healthy debate for the industry.
Esther, whereas whatever body will face the same queries over their mandate, in
my view, what is most important is that each respective body plays it part to
the full and possibly even surpass the expectations of the industry. As long as
they are all forging towards one goal (making Kenya the ICT Hub in Africa)in all
their activities, the industry will have gained.
What is important is that all these bodies do not fight each other, rather
complement one another to grow this industry.
We must all work together for good of this industry and nation.
Gilda Odera
Chair, BPO/ITES Working Group at the Office of the Prime Minister
(For those not aware, a group of 6 persons from Private Sector and Government
was recently put together for a two year term to advise on all these issues
being raised in this list. Your views are being noted.)
Quoting Esther Muchiri <emuchiri at andestbites.com>:
> Good suggestions Harry, but while I am not a pessimist, I have a feeling
> that with time, whatever body will be formed will still face the same
> attacks/questions from the industry on the mandate etc
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>
>
> Perhaps the upcoming public forum will begin to shed some light in the
> direction ICT development in Kenya should follow?
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> From: kictanet-bounces+emuchiri=andestbites.com at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+emuchiri=andestbites.com at lists.kictanet.or.ke] On
> Behalf Of Harry Delano
> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 6:21 PM
> To: emuchiri at andestbites.com
> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? - Capacity Building
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> Lilian,
>
>
> This is so comprehensive.. Hope, notes are being taken from these
> resourceful discussions coming in.
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>
> Mine, is just a proposal. Clearly, the different agencies existing, happen
> to work within some form of
>
> mandate in their own areas of jurisdiction or so, whether the mandates are
> competing mandates or
>
> a duplication, it may be quite difficult to just "merge" them..
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> Clearly, Listers - one thing that is now clear, is that ICT is a huge
> phenomenon, that cuts' out across
>
> the entire spectrum of Govt and ministries - beyond INFOCOM. This means,
> stakeholders from other
>
> Govt. sectors need to be brought into the fold to harmonize strategy..
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> I suppose therefore, this may call for an oversight body - to which, each of
> the Govt agencies can have a
>
> representation. This oversight, could encompass reps, from all sectors,
> private , and govt. All interests
>
> should be declared as a pre-requisite to serving on this panel for purposes
> of accountability and
>
> transparency..
>
>
>
> If in order, I could float some names for such a body, such as:-
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>
>
> * National ICT Task Force - (NICTAF)
> * National ICT Agency of Kenya - (NICTAK)
> * National ICT Oversight Board -(NICTOB)
>
> Other names are welcome..
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>
>
> Harry
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>
> _____
>
> From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke] On
> Behalf Of Lilian Karanja
> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:43 AM
> To: harry at comtelsys.co.ke
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? - Capacity Building
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> Yes, Robert.......I see.
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>
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> Certainly, what GoK needs is ICT Governance. "Without governance you do not
> produce good decisions consistently. 'Governance' in the context of the
> management of ICT crafts a clear framework in which decisions are made, who
> makes the decisions about business and technology developments, who has
> input into the decision-making process and how the decisions are formed".
>
>
>
> In my opinion, the ICT Board (under Min. Of Info Comm), the Directorate of
> e-Government (under OP), the GITS Department (under Min. Of Finance), and
> both the CCK and NCS (both under Min. Of Info Comm) seem to have related ICT
> goals and objectives. They (unfortunately) don't seem to oftenly collaborate
> in their decision-making. I personally like the idea of a KITA like
> SITA/RITA. Sometime ago, the Directorate of e-Government seemed to come-up
> into a KITA (in the way we think of SITA/RITA), but did not 'mature' into
> the institution envisioned.
>
> GoK ICT Governance Decisions would ideally focus on:
>
> . Determining the strategic approach to e-government and ICT within
> GoK
>
> . How the e-government initiatives should be used in GoK, to improve
> services, reduce costs, develop the community, etc
>
> . How fundamental e-government and ICT is to GoK and the country at
> large
>
> . The way e-government and ICT is to be managed (e.g. by what
> mechanism and how resources are to be managed)
>
> . The way investments are to be made and policies on realising and
> sharing benefits
>
> . How the required skills are to be procured (through strategic
> partnerships, in-house, through consortium, etc)
>
> . The principles that underlie the ICT architecture
>
> . Setting priorities and determining e-government and ICT
> investment programmes
>
> . Managing the foundations and regulations regarding the core
> elements of the infrastructure:
>
> o Personnel - who will be responsible for their professional development
> and where certain skills should reside
>
> o Methods and techniques - what project/programme management, development
> and operations management standards should be used
>
> o Charging mechanisms and services standards (performance management)
>
> o Information - standards to enable the effective sharing of information
>
> o Core applications - intranet, finance systems, payroll, registries and
> personnel standards, etc
>
> o Technical - network, consolidated service desk, data standards
>
> o Security
>
> o Legal
>
>
>
> This has conspicuously missed within GoK, in the past years. We look to GoK
> greatly to spur 'mwananchi' by keenly committing to 'add value' to broadband
> so that their attitude, confidence and appreciation towards the use ICTs and
> the Internet increases (especially in the rural areas, as they access
> Government e-Services), thus creating an Internet Community and an IT
> culture. Am not sure we necessarily need support from outside to do this,
> even donor funds (we don't need). We can do it on our own, as we (Kenya)
> are, now, known to be an emerging knowledge economy. GoK can lead the way to
> create a Kenyan way 'working with'and using ICT. We have so many Youth (any
> way), who are jobless! Lets purposefully develop capacity of these young and
> use them sufficiently.
>
>
>
> I rest my case, and I apologise for any misunderstandings.
>
>
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> LILIAN
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> --- On Tue, 4/6/10, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> From: robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: Who is ICT Board? - Capacity Building
> To: "Lilian Karanja" <l_wkaranja at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 12:32 AM
>
> Hi Lilian,
>
>
>
> Just wanted to clarify an issue, government has some of the best trained ICT
> fellows and I know because I have regularly interacted with them for over 10
> years. Do not be deceived by the fact that they are no fancy websites or
> iphone applications the men and women who keep the government systems
> running are basically miracle workers.
>
>
>
> How they do it is beyond my comprehension and the last thin they need is a
> capacity building what they need like all with the other areas of government
> is a co-ordinator or a Deputy Prime Minister IS. Hon Raila has definitely
> moved government efficiency a notch higher and without a "dream team" or
> expatriate consultants all he did was dust off the diamonds within.
>
>
>
> Government has a beautiful retention strategy which is we pay you for 2
> hours a day and we expect you to only deliver the paid for work, if you are
> unable to find something profitable to do with the balance 6 hours then that
> is your problem.
>
>
>
> What we need is a deputy prime minister information systems or ICT or BPO
> whatever the name of which KICTB has proven not to be to "desilo" (term
> coined by Dr. Ndemo during the PM Round table meeting) the government
> activities.
>
>
>
> Can you government ICT gurus stick your heads out and defend your selves, I
> know many of you are on this listing, so be warned that next time I need to
> put the record strait on your behalf I will actually name names.
>
>
> Robert Yawe
> KAY System Technologies Ltd
> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> Kenya
>
> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>
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>
> _____
>
>
> From: Lilian Karanja <l_wkaranja at yahoo.com>
> To: robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Sent: Mon, 5 April, 2010 16:58:41
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? Hijacked
>
>
> Dear PS:
>
>
>
> It is a little discouraging to hear you say that the issues discussed in
> this topic are 'kuchongoana tu'. We look up to you, and others in Government
> and also in the private sector who are so passionate about the use of ICTs
> and the Internet to create opportunities for all, in Kenya, and see that ICT
> remains a reliable vehicle for economic growth and development. So, please
> don't stop listening to us, patiently and we beseech you to continue in your
> wisdom in dealing with these matters.
>
>
>
> This topic, 'Who is ICT Board?' as well as that of 'eGovernment is it a myth
> or reality?' have raised important questions that should be addressed with
> 'a big heart' and an open mind. As you have noted, a town hall meeting is
> good and always welcome. However, moving forward, it needs to be clear how
> ICT Board interacts with Government and how it promotes the existence of an
> Institutional Framework for ICT management in Government. Clearly, the ICT
> Board manages of a huge chunk of donor funds for ICT growth in Kenya,
> eGovernment and the likes (through the KTCIP), but still the Government lags
> behind in their ICT technical know-how and skills.
>
>
>
> While one of their mandate (the ICT Board) is Capacity Building (Providing
> GoK and other stakeholders with skills, capacity and funding for anchor
> implementation of ICT projects for development) over time we have only seen
> laxity in the management of ICT by Government i.e. poor websites,
> unsatisfactory performance of legacy systems, inconsistent DNS & IP address
> management, meagre IT Security (web, network, etc), little or no R&D and M&E
> of ICT & eGovt, etc. But may be it is not deliberate laxity, it is that the
> Government Officers who manage IT issues in Government are not continuously
> trained in all pertinent areas to raise experts and skillful personnel.
>
>
>
> I hope this is an area ICT Board can address, when they say that part of
> their mandate is Capacity Building, otherwise we have Government Officers
> who cannot do much to use broadband properly and strategically as well as
> make eGovernment a reality. The cabilities of these Officers should be close
> to, if not better than those in the private sector. And when GoK finally has
> real experts and engineers in ICT, a retention strategy MUST be adopted to
> keep them and recompense them accordingly. This is the future of Government
> IT, 'people who are knowledgeable and focused on a bright future'.
>
>
>
> LILIAN
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> --- On Sun, 4/4/10, bitange at jambo.co.ke <bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:
>
>
> From: bitange at jambo.co.ke <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? Hijacked
> To: "Lilian" <l_wkaranja at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Date: Sunday, April 4, 2010, 9:42 AM
>
> Barrack,
> Several posts have come by on the role of ICT and I think it will be wise
> if we sorted this in a town hall meeting similar to one we had on Malili.
> Honestly it feels as though some Neanderthal decided to create these
> agencies without putting some thought to it. Criticisms are good only
> when you point out where there are gaps.
>
> The other day I posted a policy proposal for comments but only one person
> did respond. What it means then is that this forum ni ya kuchongoana tu.
> Which really is unfortunate. I have four other policy proposals that I
> really think should push through then arouse sufficient interest from the
> membership here.
>
>
> Ndemo.
>
>
> > This is truly "Jicho Pevu", i think some answers to this questions are
> > very much in order as we celebrate Easter, can someone provide us with
> > a list of all agencies involved in ICTs and ICT4D so that we can do
> > some tooth comb analysis, i saw a post from Paul on what the board
> > has achieved early this year, that was very much in order we need
> > something from NCS as well plus any other agencies.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Vitalis Olunga <volunga at yahoo.com
> <http://us.mc452.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > wrote:
> >> There is also another body , National Communications Secretarait. What
> >> is
> >> the diffrence between NCS and ICT Baord and how do the two bodies relate
> >> with respect to advisory services to the governement on ICT matters?
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >>
> >> Vitalis
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
> <http://us.mc452.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >
> >> To: volunga at yahoo.com
> <http://us.mc452.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
> >> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
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> >
> >> Sent: Sat, April 3, 2010 12:03:22 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? Hijacked
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >> I rest my case on this issue, the ICT Board is a monolith, Try
> >> reading this... (pdf file), as I feared it is mandated to do anything
> >> and
> >> everything under the sun that could be called ICT which includes your
> >> microwave oven and copier.
> >> Functions of Kenya ICT Board
> >> The core functions of Kenya ICT Board as documented in the Kenya Gazette
> >> Legal Notice No 26 of the May 2007:
> >> . To advice the government on all relevant matters pertaining to
> >> development, coordination (remember the PM post) and promotion of ICT
> >> industries in the country.
> >> . Promote both locally and internationally the opportunities for
> >> investments in ICT technology
> >> . Facilitate and manage ICT industrial incubation parks and technology
> >> parks together with associated facilities on sites, estates and land.
> >> . Partner with agents within and without the country to carry out such
> >> functions as it may consider necessary.
> >> . To transform and empower society through deployment and use of ICTs.
> >> . Carry out any other activity to promote and develop ICT products and
> >> services.
> >> Have a restful Easter as we await the limited range 4G, yes you guessed
> >> it I
> >> still have a 3G issue and I am in Nairobi.
> >> Regards
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> > Geneva
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