[kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet prices

S.Murigi Muraya murigi.muraya at gmail.com
Thu Sep 10 11:56:58 EAT 2009 

Fully agree with Bill about the hate speech and .... but also agree with 
Alex Gakuru on this one - that we consumers are unhappy with high prices!

First it was our (Kenyan) corruption (nepotism and tribalism) that run 
down Telkom Kenya.  In 2003 an employee with a multinational.org which 
supplied some technology to Telkom Kenya told me how surprised some bank 
was at the cash Telkom Kenya started banking in early 2003. It may not 
have been enough to run the organization but was much more than was 
being banked prior to this. We have had to bring in France Telecom 
(Orange) to clean up our mess because our tribal ways / politics did not 
allow us to deal with (purge) the impunity at Telkom Kenya ... which 
included a bloated workforce comprised of many unqualified villagers ..

Vodafone had to bribe (Mobitelea) to set up Safaricom Ltd. Maybe that is 
why those who could afford it had to pay 100K (almost USD 2,0000.00 
then) to get a mobile line. Some frequencies we need for more affordable 
connectivity are still held up by whoever or whatever - CCK needs to 
clarify and is probably rectifying.

What the likes of Vodafone and Orange do is to look at our previous 
(mis)management to feel content with themselves. It is sort of like how 
our Founding Fathers  inherited a colonial system that mistreated 
(undermined) Africans and committed other crimes they viewed as less 
evil than colonialism. An elderly Kikuyu driver once told me (while 
showing me some parts of Nairobi that colonials kept out of bounds for 
Africans told me) it is better to be poor and free than colonized. Those 
of us who want to be re-colonized can always and usually do migrate to 
the West where they continue to bad mouth anything and everything African.

As for us Kenyan Private Sector Patriots, we are going to demand the 
kind of (efficient and affordable) services that Expats also offer to or 
demand from their fellow country or kinsmen and local employees. Nothing 
more nothing less. They can be worth more to Africa than African 
emigrants and looters who are building up foreign nations (economies) 
for their own personal gain.

Bill Kagai wrote:
> Onyango Hatari,
> I have googled you on the internet and I have no clue what you do.
> Please table on this list your achievements in the ICT sector to
> warrant such spew on someone who has really helped change the IT
> sector in Kenya.
>
> On this one, am totally disgusted to be associated with this list. And
> you should apologise for making me read this email. I strive to read
> all my emails but today I feel wasted.
>
> Do you remember where we were in 1998 when we used to queue at
> Extelcoms House to pay our bills and what Safaricom can do for you
> today from voice, data and even money transfer??? In just 10 years!!!
>
> And you have the guts to show your naked arse on this list to shame
> the man who pioneered all this???
>
> Get a life man.....Its not advisable to drink all night and then write
> emails in the morning...for I cannot think what else could have made
> you chronicle such shit to a large list like this one....
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Onyango Hatari <onyango at inbox.com> wrote:
>   
>> What MJ is displaying is arrogance which is being permitted by Dr Ndemo. The arrogance where a poor investor can come to our country, borrow money from our banks and then after getting rich close shop the same day like GTV without anyone questioning.
>>
>> The arrogance where Michael Joseph can be brought here by the British masters and then forced upon us and after being rich buy guns and start sponsoring Kenyans like its happening in Isiolo where Lewa owners where MJ is a big owner of land is sponsoring violence and killing and maiming Kenyans and then we say that we have tribalism in Kenya.
>>
>> Tribalism is being fuelled by racist and arrogant people like Michael Joseph and if its hard to see how Michael Joseph who in January was just waxing lyrical how much we will save on Fibre Optics is now arrogant to teh core then we need to review our stakes.
>>
>> We dont need such cheap arrogance and Michael Joseph must be told so. How can you unilaterally decide without involving shareholders that tehy must get money through Mpesa? How can you just see Kenyans as people who eat and do nothing for the company while they gave yuo teh capital to expand?
>>
>> Lets be realistic here. this is arrogance and impunity to teh core and we must face it headon. Alex, ukitaka backup you got me. We will continue highlighting this until it sinks in the head of everybody taht we have Hyenas masquerading as mother Teresa
>>
>> Internet cost must go down and we support those fighting for this in facebook, and through other social media
>>
>>
>>
>>     
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: alexgakuru.lists at gmail.com
>>> Sent: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 15:57:54 +0300
>>> To: onyango at inbox.com
>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet
>>> prices
>>>
>>> Prejudged you is not at all correct
>>>
>>> You were on local media news days ago on this issue. I immediately
>>> asked you to react to my letter which you chose not to citing away on
>>> travel, and busy with business. As of today, when I asked you when
>>> specifically you would respond, you reverted with a two-word email
>>> "Next week".
>>>
>>> You see, our advocacy for quality, affordable, fairly-priced
>>> communication is not dependent on any service providers schedules or
>>> their ability to respond, via email,  to our requests for
>>> information.
>>>
>>> And in any case, we have the right to state our position regardless
>>> and I am very sure that you can respond well via various media.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Michael Joseph<MJoseph at safaricom.co.ke>
>>> wrote:
>>>       
>>>> I see you have prejudged us
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>> CEO
>>>> Safaricom
>>>>
>>>> On 9 Sep 2009, at 15:35, "Gakuru Alex" <alexgakuru.lists at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> <http://www.bizcommunity.com/Article/410/16/39787.html>
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