[kictanet] TEAMS and Open ended circuit

S.Murigi Muraya murigi.muraya at gmail.com
Fri Oct 9 00:01:54 EAT 2009


Why has KDN been able to lower their Internet prices by 90%?

Is it that they do not have 25 year contracts with the satellite 
companies that are holding us hostage?


Walubengo J wrote:
> Robert,
>
> I am glad you liked the predictions I made last year about internet 
> service costs.  I am sure you might also like my suggested 
> price-reduction mechanisms I am making this year
>
> @  http://www.strathmore.edu/pdf/ict09/affordable_ict.pdf
>
> Unfortunately nobody listens to Academicians in these parts of the 
> world - no wonder most lecturers abandon classroom to become 
> politicians...so that someone can listen to them ;-). What's more I 
> get worried when I look at some of the approaches  and strategies the 
> regulator CCK has proposed as a way of containing Tariffs (including 
> internet pricing?) from Operators (Licensees). 
>
> But since I am not an Operator, I will leave it for the Operators to 
> present their case...but they will be hard-pressed to explain whey 
> they should not be considered biased...cant wait for that stakeholders 
> meeting.
>
> As for the PS to apologise...he is of age to decide for himself.  But 
> he could learn from that Politician who had promised us a Constitution 
> in 100days. He didnt deny it - he just clarified that the days were 
> not consecutive days ;-).  And so it is the same with the internet 
> costs.  Prices will indeed come down as promised.  But obviously not 
> tomorrow.
>
> regards.
>
> walu.
>
> --- On *Thu, 10/8/09, robert yawe /<robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>/* wrote:
>
>
>     From: robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
>     Subject: Re: [kictanet] TEAMS and Open ended circuit
>     To: "Walubengo J" <jwalu at yahoo.com>
>     Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>     Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 12:27 PM
>
>     Hi,
>
>      
>
>     I finally got a chance to look through the presentation you sent
>     me concerning the marine cable issue, which was comprehensive.
>
>      
>
>     My suggestion is that you call all the ISPs and give them this
>     presentation so that they can stop, once and for all, passing the
>     buck for failing the Nation and keeping us in the stone age of
>     connectivity.
>
>      
>
>     From the presentation it is clear that the marine cable on its own
>     was not the panacea for high internet charges and slow
>     connectivity, we did not understand that the model for Internet
>     access in the US cannot be applied in countries outside that
>     continent as the bulk of the content is resident in the US .
>
>      
>
>     For a long time, over 12 years ago when I wrote an article for an
>     IT magazine that was called Micro Computer Guide, I was called the
>     village madman for advocating about the need to develop local
>     content.  I was incensed by the action by the then Karisa
>     Communications (Makatiani & Ngeno) later AfricaOnline to shut down
>     their bulleting board based service to provide us with the so
>     called Internet connection yet we where on the right track as we
>     created local content out of necessity.
>
>      
>
>     Today I believe I stand exonerated as ISP’s finally confirm that
>     the marine cable is not going to bring down the cost of Internet
>     access, you wonder why we have wasted the past 3 years singing its
>     praises.
>
>      
>
>     I say PS Ndemo, in his personal capacity and on behalf of all the
>     agencies under his ministry (ICT board, e-government, CCK &
>     other), owes the country an apology for taking us on a wild goose
>     chase. PS Ndemo the creation of local content falls smack in your
>     docket and I have said this before all the government has to do is
>     digitize all those reports in their possession beginning with the
>     constitution, sessional papers, census, exam results, list of
>     village polytechnics and the presidents diary then we can all move
>     from their.
>
>      
>
>     Again thanks Walubengo.
>
>     Robert Yawe
>     KAY System Technologies Ltd
>     Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>     P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>     Kenya
>
>     Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>
>     --- On *Fri, 2/10/09, Walubengo J /<jwalu at yahoo.com>/* wrote:
>
>
>         From: Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com>
>         Subject: Re: [kictanet] TEAMS and Open ended circuit
>         To: robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
>         Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"
>         <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>         Date: Friday, 2 October, 2009, 8:32 AM
>
>         McTim, Kai,
>
>         I can bet you have confused more than shedding light on this
>         issue.  But I cant blame you.  It's not something one can
>         explain in two or three emails. Typcially its a full-semester
>         course issue... but here could be some highlights.
>
>         http://www.strathmore.edu/pdf/ictc-08/internet-interconnection-model.pdf
>
>         walu.
>
>
>         --- On Fri, 10/2/09, McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>         > From: McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com>
>         > Subject: Re: [kictanet] TEAMS and Open ended circuit
>         > To: jwalu at yahoo.com
>         > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"
>         <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>         > Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 10:28 AM
>         > Hi Robert,
>         >
>         > On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 8:48 AM, robert yawe
>         <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
>         > wrote:
>         > >
>         > > For a while I wondered why the TEAMS cable has not
>         > gone hot yet it landed over 2 weeks ago, yesterday I got the
>         > answer.
>         > >
>         > > The headline in the newpaper story indicated that
>         > Jamii, a partner in the TEAMS project had finally connected
>         > to Europe from Fujaira, which sounded a little strange. 
>         > Where did  the fibre cable terminate to when it got to
>         > Fujaira?
>         > >
>         >
>         > SEA-ME-WE-3 and SEA-ME-WE-4 and FLAG all land in
>         > Fujiarah.  I assume
>         > there is a central landing station, with links to EMIX at
>         > that
>         > physical location.
>         >
>         >
>         > >
>         > > What this statement would suggest is that the
>         > termination in Fujaira does not actually connect into the
>         > Internet backbone but is actually an "open end" from where
>         > the providers must find a carrier, read IPOP, to get them
>         > onto the Internet.
>         > >
>         >
>         > That's what I got from the newspaper articles as well.
>         >
>         >
>         > >
>         > > Maybe I do not understand this Internet connectivity
>         > issue, but taking an analogy that if Kenya Power connect
>         > electricity to my house (before which hopefully I had
>         > already wired the inside of the house for lights, sockets
>         > and cookers) the minute then the minute I flick a switch a
>         > light will come on (subject to power rationing schedule and
>         > having bought and installed an energy saving bulb).
>         >
>         > The analogy is flawed.  The power company is a service
>         > provider, the
>         > submarine cables are not providing Internet connectivity as
>         > such.
>         >
>         > Power flows down a power line to your house,that's what you
>         > consume.
>         >
>         > light flows down glass (Layer 1 and 2).  Internet
>         > Packets (Layer 3 and
>         > higher) are encoded in this light.
>         >
>         > >
>         > > Can someone out there familiar with fibre optic cable
>         > termination shade some light on this issue for my benefit
>         > and also many others out there.
>         >
>         > TEAMS cable carries light waves.  The investors in
>         > TEAMS have the
>         > right to this capacity.  ISPs have to buy transit
>         > (their Internet
>         > access) from other providers(or peer with lots of other
>         > players).  As
>         > an ISP on TEAMS, one has to either buy transit at some
>         > location
>         > (London, Amsterdam, New York, Hong Kong, wherever) and haul
>         > it to
>         > Fujairah, OR buy it in the UAE.
>         >
>         > Have no coffee in the house, so this might be confusing,
>         > sorry.
>         >
>         > --
>         > Cheers,
>         >
>         > McTim
>         > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where
>         > it is. A
>         > route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
>         >
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