[kictanet] NCA Board member gives its price target as an E1 for US$100-500

Mon Nov 30 17:30:14 EAT 2009

This is a different debate about the banking system .. If you ask me,
protection of the banks caused and will continue to cause a problem. 

Let us stick to simple products like IP .. At least this can't be borrowed
or bubbled ..

As a X-Mas Present .. What would you say if I gave DSL and Butterfly for
free for December?

Kai

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Auftrag von Eric M.K Osiakwan
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On 30 Nov 2009, at 06:28, Crystal Watley Kigoni wrote:

Regulatory bodies are designed to ensure fair play. In the case of Internet
connectivity and pricing, the demand for services has outpaced the
production. As it stands. more bandwidth is on its way via sea and air which
will naturally make prices fall. With the landing of the cables, we have a
trickle that we are counting as a landslide. It takes time to implement
capacity. Within the next year prices will fall due to market mechanism not
due to regulatory action. 

Sure but dont forget cartels sometimes are formed to keep the status quo in
competition situations. As for the markets, they have moods which are
determinant. ask yourself, why did the global financial situation not fix
itself, afterall there is still demand and supply in play?

Crystal Kigoni

Eric here

On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 5:59 AM, kai wulff <kai.wulff at kdn.co.ke> wrote:

Define "artificial"?

Did you divide the cost of a cable by the "available" capacity or by the
anticipated uptake?

Example:

If an A320 costs 6000 USD per flight hour "wet" and has 120 seats, the cost
per passenger seat is 50 USD

If an A380 costs 20 000 USD per flight hour "wet" and has 800 seats, the
cost per passenger seat is 25 USD

So do we say that a Tour Operator can only sell a seat for USD 25 plus a
small (and again .. What is small) margin?

What if you only fly at 10% load on your first flight . Isn't your cost per
passenger now 250 USD .

Kai

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Kai,

I would observe the sabath by writing my last email on this subject.

I was at the said workshop and indeed have worked on the subject extensively
prior to the announcement by the regulator and in the new story, "supply
bandwidth" is the term, otherwise i wont make an apple and oranges analysis.
At least you should credit my non-distortionist approach to this subject.  

The situation we are dealing with is the artificial high price of bandwidth
to the continent which has held back the industry, those prices MUST come
into the realm of reality and then the forces of demand and supply would
make usage and local content the catalyst. Offcourse, education,
electrification etc are all in the value chain.

Eric here

On 29 Nov 2009, at 19:00, kai wulff wrote:

Eric,

Please read carefully what I wrote.

I have no problem with meaningful regulation .. This regulation should focus
on promoting usage ..

Your example of the Central Bank does not fit here .. The rate set by a
Central bank would in our case be the cost for which an Operator (Bank) can
buy capacity (borrows money). The Central Banks don't regulate the retail
end ..

I mentioned before, the main tools to drive down Broadband prices would be
usage and local content.

More usage can be created by education, electrification and other factors.

Rgds

Kai

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US$100-500

Kai,

The Central Bank as the regulator of the financial sector in every economy
sets prime rates and other industry indicators based on their calculation of
the market forces as they interplay with demand and supply. i dont see why
you sense danger with the regulator of the coms industry setting "prime
rate" based on the commoditized calculation.....

You generate a lot of weight in your submission below on the private sector
factors as a basis to slap the need for regulatory intervention in a market
situation that has held the industry back for a very longtime.  Am a private
sector spice like you but if there is any lesson for us to learn from the
current global financial crisis, it is that, we need regulatory
interventions in the market theatre as markets have mood and are by that
extension in perfect. 

My comment is, all the factors you have enumerated are great but they dont
negate the need for regulatory intervention to bring artificially high
prices down for the masses to have access, a market expansion mechanism. 

Eric here

On 29 Nov 2009, at 17:59, kai wulff wrote:

Eric,

This is exactly the type of statement that is dangerous. It is a little bit
like deflation .

Because everybody expect cheaper prices nobody moves .. And because of this,
uptake is below the potential, usage of the cable is sub optimal and prices
don't come down . Result: People will wait longer ..

I still don't understand why we are so set on the E1 price (actually we
should talk about 2M duplex and not old school) for a BPO .. Quality is what
matters ..

With a good quality compression you can push more than 256 calls at any
given time. So in an 8 hour shift you could have 122880 call minutes with
256 agents .. Assume 70% load, this makes 86016 minutes. Surely, you will
have to terminate them into a network. Assume 0.02USD per minute.

So my question: What is your staff cost? Let's argue 700KSH per day and
person? Electricity? KSH 20 per day and person? Rent KSH 50 per day and
person (assuming you work 2 shifts, 7 days a week).

Add software, overheads ...

So now, what is the cost of communication?

Currently an E1 in Kenya costs 1200 USD (not using the free offer) list
price. So we said 2 shifts, 30 days, 70% load ..

5160960 call minutes a month

That makes 0,0174 KSH per minute (took a rate of 75 to the USD) for the
submarine portion!

We add KSH 2 for termination = 2,0174 KSH communications per minute

Salaries: 1,45 KSH per minute (and this includes the idle ones or KSH 2,08
per minute at 70%

You see the contribution of the pure Submarine portion .. It is NEXT TO
NOTHING.

Any comments?

Kai

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A two day workshop called "Fiber Optic Undersea (Submarine) cable", in
collaboration with  <http://98.130.227.12/> West Africa Telecommunications
Regulators Assembly (WATRA), the  <http://www.gtz.de/en/> German Technical
Group (GTZ) and also the  <http://www.nca.org.gh/> National Communications
Authority (NCA) at the La Palm Royal Hotel.

The workshop offered  <http://98.130.227.12/> WATRA members the guidance
regarding the regulation of access to new undersea cables and also come up
with adoptable guidelines for issuance of undersea cable licenses and
landing rights agreement. This would ensure the transparency in deployment
and pricing of undersea cables.

A Member of the Board of Directors of  <http://www.nca.org.gh/> NCA, Solomon
Quandzie has observed that the availability of international bandwidth,
coupled with NCA's plans for licensing additional terrestrial fiber optic
cables systems, and also wireless broadband access (through things like
WiMAX) operators would finally set the deployment of broadband networks
throughout the country and further lay the foundation for rapid economic
growth in the ICT sector.

He said, application of Business Process Outsourcing (BPOs) and Government's
decentralization program would enhance various e-government packages which
would increase the social-economic development of the citizenry in a manner
never witnessed in this country over the past several years.

Quandzie said that the NCA is committed to opening up the market base of the
telecommunication industry by offering an additional fiber optic cable
operator (WACS), which would add more capacity to the existing one, all
within a 24 month period.

According to Quandzie, the current SAT 3 cable systems provides an estimated
three gigabytes capacity of international bandwidth to the country at approx
systems to become operational, adding that "They will be adding
respectively, for a total of 1,920 gigabytes or 640 fold increase to the
current capacity of international bandwidth in the country".

Quandzie said that NCA expectation of a supply bandwidth a price goal of
$100-500 per E1 should be possible within the very near future which would
provide the necessary framework for the attainment of such an outcome.

He concluded that with the right regulatory framework established, reliable
and affordable broadband networks, coupled with low cost of available
international bandwidth can be provided through undersea fiber optic cables.
(Source: The Ghanaian Chronicle)

Eric M.K Osiakwan

Director 

Internet Research

www.internetresearch.com.gh <http://www.internetresearch.com.gh/> 

emko at internetresearch.com.gh

42 Ring Road Central, Accra-North

Tel: +233.21.258800 ext 7031

Fax: +233.21.258811

Cell: +233.24.4386792

Eric M.K Osiakwan

Director 

Internet Research

www.internetresearch.com.gh <http://www.internetresearch.com.gh/> 

emko at internetresearch.com.gh

42 Ring Road Central, Accra-North

Tel: +233.21.258800 ext 7031

Fax: +233.21.258811

Cell: +233.24.4386792

Eric M.K Osiakwan

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Internet Research

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emko at internetresearch.com.gh

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