[kictanet] Cable issues

Sat Nov 7 23:47:38 EAT 2009

I can agree more with Noor,
In the recently concluded AITEC fiber summit conference at Laico, I
tried to advance this philosophy and was accused of advancing a big
brother concept.
Shared service will help utilize the economies of scale to reach many
with the infrastructure without replicating. It is indeed unfortunate
that you have several players each with parallel cables of underutilized
capacity. The investment could otherwise be extended to cover more areas
in a scalable manner.
When we players start talking to each other and sell and buy capacity to
each other? Does CCK has a role to play?

Evans

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Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 12:14 PM
To: Evans J. Nyagah
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject: [kictanet] Cable issues

Providers need to share infrastructure,it beats logic to see different
providers digging next to each other on same side of the road,this also
inconveniences road users regularly especilly in urban areas. A first
timer in a route should have extra conduits that can be used by
competitors  in future,once we share the suspicion of competition
sabotaging will reduce.
We also need to educate the public on the importance of the cable
network to our country,economy and make a connection to how a cable cut
impacts on their lives,ultimately the communities are the best
custodians in their areas,we should also encourage contractors to use
locals in each of the areas the cable is enroute and let them instill a
sense of ownership to this communities.
If government could perform well,local authorities and the state could
be building and owning fibre routes or just the conduits and lease to
all interested providers.
With the fibre cuts each day we are reducing the kenya s potential of
being the preffered gateway to landlocked countries like
Uganda,Rwanda,S.Sudan etc,hence reducing our dominance in the region and
in the process loosing economic/employment  opportunities,

Concerned,frustrated

Mahmoud Noor
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:14:08 +0300
From: "kai wulff" <kai.wulff at kdn.co.ke>
To: <jairah at kippra.or.ke>
Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues
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It would help if we could get our day in court. Vandalism is one thing,
negligence another. We as Operators spend huge amounts on staff we
attach to
contractors to make sure they don't destroy our cable plant .. If they
do,
we never get compensated. Taking them to court takes years and you might
only get awarded the cost of the cable plus the labor ..

Frustrated

Kai

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An: kai.wulff at kdn.co.ke
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Betreff: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues

Colleagues

What I would suggest is to have a law to protect critical infrastructure
from vagabonds such as those that destroy cables and other
infrastructure
that we need to sustain the enabling environment for doing business. The
penalties this guys receive are a joke and the law needs to target the
entire value chain, at least on the Kenyan perhaps East African side. 

Kind regards

Eric Aligula
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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 19:07:21 
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Subject: [kictanet] Cable issues

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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:16:41 +0300
From: "kai wulff" <kai.wulff at kdn.co.ke>
To: "'Jevans Nyabiage'" <jnyabiage at nation.co.ke>
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Sabotage and Vandalism look very similar .. Unless we ask the people
doing
it we would not know the motives.

The fault on Monday was caused by contractors of another operator who
was
not following procedures and who thought that by virtue of working for a
partly state owned company he will be allowed to do what he wants
(happens
very often, treatment of Operators is still not equal).

Today was clearly a fault caused by someone who ON PURPOSE cut the
cable.

Did the person want to steal a cable and stopped when seeing it was not
metal or was he there to sabotage the network - I would not know.

Kai

Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke
[mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke] Im
Auftrag von Jevans Nyabiage
Gesendet: Friday, November 06, 2009 19:07
An: kai.wulff at kdn.co.ke
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Betreff: [kictanet] Cable issues

In the last few weeks there has been an outcry over increasing in
disruption
of networks with some of the affected firms pointing to industrial
sabotage.

Safaricom was the first this week to claim "acts of sabotage" on the
disruption of its network. The Orange the next day arrested some cable
vandals and attributed it to suspected sabotage.

This Friday (today) Seacom fibre cable went offline for about four
hours,
they said this was due to cuts on KDN fibre around Voi. 

Is this 'sabotage' real or imagined?

Jevans

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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 12:59:22 -0800 (PST)
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