[kictanet] Seacom goes live?
Onyango Hatari
onyango at inbox.com
Fri Jul 31 14:41:52 EAT 2009
Brian
Is there anywhere I mentione "everything"? Can you address me on issues I raised and we should not start engaging in flame mail and sideshows. Address my issues.
OH
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blongwe at gmail.com
> Sent: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:24:27 +0300
> To: onyango at inbox.com
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Seacom goes live?
>
> hmm, so government and large corporates are to blame for everything...
> isn't that an overly simple approach towards addressing solutions to
> aid our development?
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Onyango Hatari<onyango at inbox.com> wrote:
>>
>> Guys
>>
>> Its disgusting listening and watching Michael Joseph claim how the
>> investors
>> must re-coup their investment. How much must they continue to exploit
>> their
>> clients to "re-coup their investments"? The price of brea was 100 and
>> now
>> has gone to 10 and the retailer is still charging 100 just to "re-coup
>> their
>> investment"?
>>
>> Is this the same MJ who said that the cost of doing business in Kenya is
>> expensive. Thats an investor must invest in a 4WD, security and such?
>> Then I
>> wondered why we must have investors who cant even afford a 4WD?
>>
>> We would rather have the kadogo economy than big ones who continue to
>> exploit Kenyans even when they hinted how much costs will go down. The
>> big
>> mistake is that now PS Ndemo who is representing the government is
>> quiet.
>>
>> Michael, please can we see the transfer of savings to the common man.
>> Thats
>> when Kenyans will appreciate you. We must not see atleas the cost of 300
>> MB
>> coming from 1,000 to Ksh 500. That way you will still be making big
>> profits
>> but we will understand you.
>>
>> We need a government which cares for its citizens
>>
>> OH
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: warigia at gmail.com
>> Sent: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:19:19 +0300
>> To: onyango at inbox.com
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Seacom goes live?
>>
>> Dear Brian and Michael
>> So, what is the best way for the common mwananchi to take advantage of
>> these
>> higher speeds? Will we experience them if we have the small dial up
>> through
>> safaricom or do we need new equipment.
>> Sincerely, Warigia
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe
>> <blongwe at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> As usual Michael, you are right! I did a traceroute (connected on
>> Onecom/Safaricom)
>>
>> As you can see it hops into London and gets onto AS6453 in London
>> which belongs to Tata.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> BryoNet:~ macbook$ traceroute www.yahoo.com
>> traceroute to www.wa1.b.yahoo.com (69.147.76.15), 64 hops max, 40 byte
>> packets
>> 1 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 1.302 ms 0.689 ms 0.677 ms
>> 2 41-203-221-209.onecom.co.ke (41.203.221.209) 15.363 ms 4.641 ms
>> 4.172
>> ms
>> 3 41-203-216-12.onecom.co.ke (41.203.216.12) 20.489 ms 6.503 ms
>> 3.367
>> ms
>> 4 41-203-220-17.onecom.co.ke (41.203.220.17) 5.089 ms 16.715 ms
>> 5.910
>> ms
>> 5 41-203-220-2.onecom.co.ke (41.203.220.2) 5.636 ms 4.041 ms 4.873
>> ms
>> 6 196.201.222.17 (196.201.222.17) 12.243 ms 4.722 ms 4.986 ms
>> 7 if-12-1-3.mcore3.ldn-london.as6453.net (195.219.195.189) 238.321
>> ms 183.554 ms 187.807 ms
>> 8 if-5-0-0-903.core3.aeq-ashburn.as6453.net (195.219.195.154)
>> 272.541 ms 274.972 ms 279.118 ms
>> 9 ix-3-0-9.core3.aeq-ashburn.as6453.net (216.6.51.30) 287.170 ms
>> 281.733 ms 277.584 ms
>> 10 ae2-p140.msr1.re1.yahoo.com (216.115.108.57) 272.322 ms
>> ae1-p150.msr2.re1.yahoo.com (216.115.108.21) 276.266 ms 269.433 ms
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Michael
>> Joseph<MJoseph at safaricom.co.ke>
>> wrote:
>>> I think they are using Tata from Mumbai but I may be wrong. Also
>>> comprehensive tests are not complete but nevertheless it gave us an
>>> opportunity to experience much faster speeds which can only get better.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>> CEO
>>> Safaricom Limited
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>>> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Maliti, Tom
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 11:46 AM
>>> To: Michael Joseph
>>> Cc: ke-users; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Seacom goes live?
>>>
>>> Asante sana Brian.
>>>
>>> I also pinged while connected to a 1Gbps SEACOM connection last week in
>>> Mombasa and got similar numbers to what you got.
>>>
>>> The point is this: we have fiber in Kenya but our service providers are
>>> not taking it up, even if it is backup. There have been discussions on
>>> this
>>> list and other fora about the urgency of fiber for a slew of big and
>>> small
>>> companies as well just you and I to be able to stream video without
>>> interruption or spend less time on email (made possible by high speed
>>> connections). Somehow our service providers, with the exception of one,
>>> do
>>> not get that.
>>>
>>> Unless of course there are others who already have.
>>>
>>> Tom Maliti
>>> Correspondent
>>> East Africa Bureau
>>>
>>> Direct line: +254 20 285 9109
>>> Office line: +254 20 285 9000
>>> +254 734 555 252
>>> Fax: +254 20 2724726
>>> Mobile +254 733 641 984
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Brian Munyao Longwe [mailto:blongwe at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: 29 July 2009 11:24
>>> To: Maliti, Tom
>>> Cc: ke-users; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Seacom goes live?
>>>
>>> Hi Tom,
>>>
>>> SEACOM indeed started providing services last week, however the service
>>> being provided is not the *complete* SEACOM project.
>>>
>>> I understand that what they lit up is the portion that connects SAT-3
>>> in
>>> South Africa upto Mombasa - therefore the international link is going
>>> via
>>> SAT-3. The *complete* system as per their technical drawings connects
>>> from
>>> Mumbai, India into Djibouti and thence across the EA seaboard. What we
>>> have
>>> now is more of capacity on their "backup"
>>> system. A traceroute or 'ping' across their present link reveals a
>>> round-trip-time (RTT) of about 140ms-240ms - this is due to the
>>> congestion
>>> on SAT-3. A real "end-to-end" fiber system should yield RTT of between
>>> 7-30ms.... they, nevertheless called it a "launch"
>>>
>>> Needless to say, this is much better performance than the satellite
>>> that
>>> we are used to, thus the excitement is definitely worth it's while -
>>> but it
>>> will be much more exciting once the true end-to-end services of either
>>> SEACOM, TEAMS or others lights up.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Maliti, Tom<tmaliti at ap.org> wrote:
>>>> Dear Walu,
>>>>
>>>> It is almost a week since SEACOM went live and there does not seem to
>>>> be that much excitement or response despite the many discussions that
>>>> have been dedicated to broadband on this list.
>>>>
>>>> Your question at the end of your email is still valid. Or is it
>>>> possible our varied service providers were not prepared, irrespective
>>>> of what they say in public? It seems, however, one service provider
>>>> was ready: Safaricom. Their service has been on fiber since Saturday
>>>> and anyone who is on their data services has been enjoying the high
>>>> speeds that have been talked about for years.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know of any others?
>>>>
>>>> Tom Maliti
>>>> Correspondent
>>>> East Africa Bureau
>>>>
>>>> Direct line: +254 20 285 9109
>>>> Office line: +254 20 285 9000
>>>> +254 734 555 252
>>>> Fax: +254 20 2724726
>>>> Mobile +254 733 641 984
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> From: kictanet-bounces+tmaliti=ap.org at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>>>> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+tmaliti=ap.org at lists.kictanet.or.ke] On
>>>> Behalf Of Walubengo J
>>>> Sent: 23 July 2009 17:18
>>>> To: Maliti, Tom
>>>> Cc: skunk; ke-users; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>>>> Subject: [kictanet] Seacom goes live?
>>>>
>>>> http://twitter.com/SeacomLive/
>>>>
>>>> Jst reading from Twitter that Seacom has gone live. Not sure if its
>>>> only in .TZ though. Any impact in .KE? Ama we are still waiting for
>>>> our very own TEAMS?
>>>>
>>>> Tunajivunia?
>>>>
>>>> walu.
>>>>
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