[kictanet] ICDL and foreign certifications for basiccomputer usage

Wed Dec 2 17:37:37 EAT 2009

Hi,

I have always said that Kenya has no shortage of thinkers, James why not run an online demonstration of your systems where we can participate without having to leave our cozy dens.

Lets utilise technology to achieve our objectives.

Robert Yawe

KAY System Technologies Ltd

Phoenix House, 6th Floor

P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200

Kenya

Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

--- On Wed, 2/12/09, joseph james <jjngatia at gmail.com> wrote:

From: joseph james <jjngatia at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [ke-internetusers] ICDL and foreign certifications for  basiccomputer usage
To: "robert yawe" <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: "Evans Ikua" <ikua.evans at gmail.com>, "Alex Gakuru" <gakuru at gmail.com>, "Walubengo J" <jwalu at yahoo.com>, "ke-users" <ke-internetusers at bdix.net>
Date: Wednesday, 2 December, 2009, 10:50

Robert,

Thanks for the collective view. I can say that our company, Octopus ICT solutions has built the capacity in regards to global eLearning solutions visit  www.easyLearning.co.ke and www.octopusict.com

Our EasyLearning courses are distributed using scratch cards and Pin Code technology. Each card unlocks one course for a period of 3 months and each course has inbult exams with certificates options for each course completed. This is likened to a mock preparation phase prior to Invigilation where the student takes final exam for a curriculum of courses of choice like Project management, sales, marketing and so on... 

Ware also working with KDN on the DVN project the current with regards to supplying consumable eLearning solutions to users at grassroot level thro the Scratch card technology. We have piloted this in 4 Digital centers. I must say that this is a revenue generating scheme for DVN operators who will get the cards on commision for redistibution. 

The retail price is Kshs. 800 for any course on the easyLearning form. For example It will cost  800x7 for the 7 ICDL courses. Users can pursue certification as when and where they choose for a cost of say 8400 to 10000. The training and certification cost is approx. 14000 to 16000. In short, our eLearning idea like you mentioned, is in itself a business case for setting up a Digital village where people can use it a eLearning centre.

It will be a great oppportunity to develop a similar IT curriculum for KASNEB and other organisations who choose to digitize their curricula. 

Let me know what you think on the above. 

Thank you for your veiws.

On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 1:19 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Walubengo,

We need to let the experts do what they do best, KASNEB can examine any subject, I believe we need to develop and strengthen such institutions.  Dr. Bitange has indicated that he is meeting KASNEB to discuss the same, lets all pray for the best.

I noted a few people on this list are e-learning experts can they please start sending proposals to KASNEB and the ministry on how we can have the training offered electronically and also the examinations.  This would be ideal as a revenue stream for the so called DigitalVillages.

Don't hide your light under a bushel. 

Robert Yawe

KAY System Technologies Ltd

Phoenix House, 6th Floor

P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200

Kenya

Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

--- On Wed, 2/12/09, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [ke-internetusers] ICDL and foreign certifications for basiccomputer usage
To: "Evans Ikua" <ikua.evans at gmail.com>, "Alex Gakuru" <gakuru at gmail.com>, "robert yawe" <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>

Cc: "ke-users" <ke-internetusers at bdix.net>
Date: Wednesday, 2 December, 2009, 10:09

Yawe,

by the way, I had not seen that connection
 between ICDL and KASNEB. Actually KASNEB is doing what the government is attempting to do through ICDL. Indeed the IT Technician Exams (ICTT)  provides  "Computer Application Packages" (=ICDL) as just as one of its 6modules.

Why not ask KASNEB to extract and repackage that exam into one that competes with ICDL? They have the infrastructure to execute this.  Unfortunately some IT professionals felt and continue to feel that KASNEB should not "eat" into the IT market and should remain in the "accounting" side of things. However, KASNEB has evolved into an examinations brand and  has the procedures and structures to literally examine anything thrown its way ;-)

walu.
nb: proclaimer:-i do happen to have some affiliation with KASNEB.

--- On Wed, 12/2/09, robert
 yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

From: robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [ke-internetusers] ICDL and foreign certifications for basiccomputer usage
To: "Evans Ikua" <ikua.evans at gmail.com>, "Alex Gakuru" <gakuru at gmail.com>

Cc: "ke-users" <ke-internetusers at bdix.net>
Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 1:19 PM

Alex, I love a thought through response like this one, if KASNEB are good enough to certify our bean counters (read accountants) what makes them incompetent when
 it comes to developing an IT proficiency curriculum and examination?

The KASNEB finance certification is recognized worldwide, I repeat worldwide and is treated as gospel within the greater east African region.  

An accountant is responsible for higher value activity so if we can test accountants why not IT proficiency.  Come to think of it we even exam and certify doctors who last time I checked provide a more critical service than a typist using a work processor.

Alex thanks for your input, now who will nip this new "anglo leasing" scam in the bud?

Regards

Robert Yawe

KAY System Technologies Ltd

Phoenix House, 6th Floor

P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200

Kenya

Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

--- On Tue, 1/12/09, Alex Gakuru <gakuru at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Alex Gakuru <gakuru at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [ke-internetusers] ICDL and foreign certifications for  basiccomputer usage
To: "Evans Ikua" <ikua.evans at gmail.com>

Cc: "ke-users" <ke-internetusers at bdix.net>
Date: Tuesday, 1 December, 2009, 5:21

Evans,

You may be pleased to know that the Kenya Accountants and Secretaries

National Examinations Board (KASNEB) in 2006 introduced two examinable
courses( 1 Professional Level("CICT"), 1 Technician Level"ICTT"). Last
week, KASNEB Secretary and CEO kindly send me copies of the syllabus

-(commencement June 2009)

I have copied this message to KASNEB CEO with the hope that they may
be interested in joining
 this list at least for the purpose of this
discussion?

Kind regards,

Alex

On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi at gmail.com> wrote:
> Evan's argument was regarding the cost of certification, not platform - and

> whether KIE can develop a local certification instead of 'sending forex
> abroad'
>
> On Nov 30, 2009 8:58 PM, "DAI" <svarrer at digitalageinstitute.com> wrote:

>
> ICDL is platform independent. Period.
>
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