[kictanet] Seacom goes live- wait for TEAMS

Sat Aug 1 14:36:30 EAT 2009

Alex, John and Joe

I think that we need to look deeper into this. The government of Kenya is still a shareholder in Safaricom and so I dont think that I dont have much say on Safaricom pricing since I am a shareholder privately and also through the government.

But when Safaricom doesnt even listen to its shareholders, its sickening. EASSY will be landing in April 2010 and will be switched on in June / July 2010. Now thats a looooooong time in IT and COmmunication world. For most techies, the problem in one single year is not most of the time the proble in the next year.

If Safaricom allow a penetration of another 20% through home broadband modems and they could even subsidise the Acer which goes for 19k and let it work with the modem. They would then help in distributing technology through their many distributors.

They can then normalise the price of the products after 5 months by slightly raising it. That way, Safaricom would have penetrated the market and completely dislodged competetion.

And another thing which Safaricom and Orange must address is that Kenyan currency doesnt expire and so why should all my money in Data bundle expire after 30 days. What should happen is that Safaricom should let the activation expire but the data bundle intact so that when I re-load, then I will get my data bundle which I didnt finish the other time.

But letting my bundly of 70MB expire every month is liek making me look like am living in Zim. My modem connection can expire yes but let me get my remaining bundle after I re-load/activate

OH

> -----Original Message-----
> From: alexgakuru.lists at gmail.com
> Sent: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 11:54:02 +0300
> To: onyango at inbox.com
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Seacom goes live- wait for TEAMS
> 
> Competition!! Yes indeed is consumers best friend.
> 
> In fact, instead of staying out all night pinging, pinging, and
> pinging.. and nothing much changes...then burning ourselves out
> arguing on Seacom pricing, we should now strategise how to fuel more
> competition, confront next connectivity frontier-rural.
> 
> Skunkworks are pleased to inform you that PS Ndemo will be talking to
> us about the one million laptops stimulus, technology innovation and
> entrepreneurship- On Tuesday next week (4th August).
> 
> I intend to ask him "what would be the government's plans regards
> hooking Kenya up with http://www.o3bnetworks.com/?"
> 
> See the attached image.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Alex
> 
> On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 3:41 AM, Joseph Mucheru<mucheru at google.com> wrote:
>> Walu,
>> 
>> I personally think it is a bit simpler than that. Over the many years we
>> have lobbied for better services and/or prices in the country, the one
>> sure
>> thing that always worked was competition. In the case of the cables, I
>> think
>> the competitive pressures are much more for the operators as the
>> investment
>> (stakes) are much higher. By various calculations both Seacom and Teams
>> have
>> more than three times the current bandwidth demand. That means the wiser
>> operators will not only be the ones that are first to market, but those
>> that
>> give the right price to attract the economies of scale they need to ever
>> get
>> back their investment. Any operator that delays this process will only
>> have
>> much more future cost to convincing consumers to get onto their network.
>> 
>> I am convinced right now it is a consumers market and what will be
>> interesting is which operators are able to see things from a long-term
>> perspective and win the market. The fact that some operators have a much
>> broader and wider local loop infrastructure only makes this more
>> interesting
>> and does not give outright victory to one.
>> 
>> In summary, investment in the cables is a sunk cost and the game now is
>> who
>> can get the user numbers on their network. Any short-term gains by an
>> operator through higer prices will cost them significantly more in the
>> long-run.
>> 
>> my 2cts worth
>> 
>> Joe Mucheru
>> 
>> On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 1:14 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Waudo,
>>> 
>>> Difference -at least on paper- is that TEAMS was put up with Tax payers
>>> money by close to 40% (i think).  So you and me have a 40% say or
>>> demand
>>> that they sell the bandwidth commodity at cost.  But you and me (tax
>>> payers)
>>> have 0% (zero%) shares in SEACOM.
>>> 
>>> SEACOM was put up with 100% private money - only the individual
>>> shareholders can decide on pricing (remember the famous SAT3 cable on
>>> the
>>> west-african cost that had little impact on pricing? the individual
>>> shareholders decided to keep the prices just 1-5% below satellite in
>>> order
>>> to recoup investment with the shortest timeframes.  15 years later, the
>>> prcing was still the same at 1-5% satellite costs.  That is called
>>> Business-
>>> increasing shareholders value and yes nobody should apologies for that)
>>> 
>>> In short, SEACOM can go the SAT3 way and you and CCK can shout as much
>>> as
>>> they want and they have every right not to care.  BUT with TEAMS you
>>> and i
>>> do have a say - however small it is or it maybe.
>>> 
>>> And its pretty grey area how say like Safcom with shares on both cables
>>> can be compelled to reduce prices because if push comes to shove Safcom
>>> can
>>> say their data is strictly running on the (private) SEACOM cable which
>>> is
>>> exempt from all the regulatory pressures. It can chose to say TEAMS is
>>> simply it back-up route.
>>> 
>>> Thats why I think we are breaking new ground here and its going to be
>>> very
>>> interesting...
>>> 
>>> walu.
>>> 
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