[kictanet] South Africa embraces ICT on polls

Evans J. Nyagah ejnyagah at Telkom.co.ke
Sat Apr 18 23:06:24 EAT 2009


Staying with this issue, kenya has the next big opportunity to  
anticipate inclusion of ICT in electoral process, this will be  
realized when the electoral body yet to be formed revises the  
electorate registers- which should include contacts such as mobile
  and emails. Further a mechanism to have those in the diaspora  
oncluded will epitomize our development in ICT.


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>   3. Re: South Africa embraces ICT in polls (Solomon Mburu)
>   4. Re: South Africa embraces ICT in polls (Gakuru Alex)
>   5. Court jails Pirate Bay founders...Worlds most high profile
>      file sharing website (alice)
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> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 18:09:17 +0300 (EAT)
> From: bitange at jambo.co.ke
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] South Africa embraces ICT in polls
> To: "Wainaina Mungai" <wainaina at madeinkenya.org>
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> Wainaina,
> Indeed we have made progress in this end.  The Lands, Judiciary, Motor
> Vhicle, and Pension Dept registries are being prepared for  
> digitization.
> It takes time to go through the procurement process and fighting
> resistance from staff.  It is not all that easy as I once thought.  We
> shall not give up though.  Parliament has to pass the FOI for all the
> digitization to stimulate enterprise.
>
> Regards
>
> Ndemo.
>
>
>> A few years back at the Safaricom offices, President Kibaki tasked
>> former Info & Comm Minister with implementing such "Digitization" in
>> government. What ever happened to that?
>>
>> **Is PS Ndemo still tasked with implementing digitization?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Wainaina
>>
>>
>> On 4/16/09, wesley kiriinya <kiriinya2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Well our census is up in a few months. Let's see if technology  
>>> will be
>>> used
>>> to verify the truth of the collected data.
>>>
>>> I believe in a system where everything works like it's supposed  
>>> to, data
>>> from deaths, births, immigration (and whatever affects population  
>>> size)
>>> can
>>> be used to update the population statistics, and a census only  
>>> conducted
>>> in
>>> areas where there seems to be an abnormal population size change
>>> (small-scale census). Technology can go a long way into making  
>>> this a
>>> reality. I believe the cost of maintaining the technology and doing
>>> small-scale census would be cheaper than doing an entire census  
>>> every
>>> decade.
>>>
>>> O_O
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Thu, 4/16/09, John Walubengo <jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: John Walubengo <jwalu at yahoo.com>
>>> Subject: [kictanet] South Africa embraces ICT in polls
>>> To: kiriinya2000 at yahoo.com
>>> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"  
>>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>> Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009, 11:04 AM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Not sure if our next "Kivuitu" wants to hear things like below ;-)
>>>
>>> walu.
>>> ~~~~~~
>>> By CHARLES OMOND IPosted Thursday, April 16 2009 at 10:41
>>>
>>> In Summary
>>>
>>> As the rest of the continent dithers, use of information  
>>> communication
>>> technology in South Africa's political processes has enabled  
>>> thousands
>>> of
>>> its citizens overseas to vote, a whole week ahead of their home- 
>>> based
>>> compatriots.
>>>
>>> JOHANNESBURG, Thursday
>>> As the rest of Africa dithers, South Africa has moved fast to  
>>> embrace
>>> information communication technology as part of its political  
>>> processes.
>>> And
>>> as a result of the revolutionary move, thousands of eligible  
>>> voters have
>>> already cast their ballots away from home and a whole week ahead of
>>> their
>>> home-based compatriots.
>>>
>>> Rest of the story...
>>> http://www.nation.co.ke/News/africa/-/1066/560768/-/13ph0aiz/-/index.html
>>>
>>> walu.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 18:37:59 +0300
> From: Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] South Africa embraces ICT in polls
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> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 6:09 PM,  <bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:
>
>> resistance from staff. ?It is not all that easy as I once thought. ? 
>> We
>> shall not give up though. ?Parliament has to pass the FOI for all the
>> digitization to stimulate enterprise.
>>
>
> The Media:
>
> Please help in exposing more Civil Servants frustrating openness in
> government. How does FOI  threaten their interests? Why is the
> Official Secrets Act their continued corruption cover-up. What
> corruption perpetuating networks and cartels exist? Tally which MPs
> declare their support for FOI if tabled in parliament today?
>
> regards,
>
> Alex
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:03:40 -0230
> From: Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] South Africa embraces ICT in polls
> To: Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists at gmail.com>
> Cc: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
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> Dakitari, I believe no matter how much pressure and resistance is
> coming from some civil servants, they will have to give in, only when
> proper mechanisms and laws are put in place.
>
> On 17/04/2009, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 6:09 PM,  <bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:
>>
>>> resistance from staff. ?It is not all that easy as I once  
>>> thought. ?We
>>> shall not give up though. ?Parliament has to pass the FOI for all  
>>> the
>>> digitization to stimulate enterprise.
>>>
>>
>> The Media:
>>
>> Please help in exposing more Civil Servants frustrating openness in
>> government. How does FOI  threaten their interests? Why is the
>> Official Secrets Act their continued corruption cover-up. What
>> corruption perpetuating networks and cartels exist? Tally which MPs
>> declare their support for FOI if tabled in parliament today?
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> Alex
>>
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> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 19:37:36 +0300
> From: Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] South Africa embraces ICT in polls
> To: mwangi at wamae.com
> Cc: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
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> Wasalaale! Please stop suspecting here's hard truth. Nowadays the
> 'real' money is in procurement.
> <http://www.ppoa.go.ke/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=47>. You
> recall the time all 3,000 were sacked some years back..
>
> Since the Public Procurement and Disposal Act, 2005 came into effect.
> They changed tact and they put every hurdle in availing information
> that would enable open tendering. Most of the costly ads are for PR..
> An example? One of them recently called me asking me to inform a group
> of SMEs I was lobbying they get government business, to go collect
> tender documents from their procurement department at 6 pm. The
> deadline for submission was 9 am the following morning. You get what I
> am saying? You don't suppose that person sat on that information 'by
> accident' all the while?
>
> FOI would mean that anyone can go back and demand, for example, all
> communication, call logs etc that Civil Servant had prior to the
> tender award? Should pattern be established than impling that the law
> was broken, then that somebody would find themselves on the other side
> of the law. Just one example.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 7:16 PM,  <mwangi at wamae.com> wrote:
>> Alex:
>>
>> I suspect that civil servants are not anti the FOI per se, but  
>> afraid that digitization will lead to job cuts and, to be somewhat  
>> cynical, reduce their ability to exact "rents" from their jobs.
>>
>> -Mwangi, Jhb
>> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists at gmail.com>
>>
>> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 18:37:59
>> To: <mwangi.wamae at gmail.com>
>> Cc: <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] South Africa embraces ICT in polls
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 6:09 PM, ?<bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:
>>
>>> resistance from staff. ?It is not all that easy as I once  
>>> thought. ?We
>>> shall not give up though. ?Parliament has to pass the FOI for all  
>>> the
>>> digitization to stimulate enterprise.
>>>
>>
>> The Media:
>>
>> Please help in exposing more Civil Servants frustrating openness in
>> government. How does FOI ?threaten their interests? Why is the
>> Official Secrets Act their continued corruption cover-up. What
>> corruption perpetuating networks and cartels exist? Tally which MPs
>> declare their support for FOI if tabled in parliament today?
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> Alex
>>
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> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 02:34:34 +0300
> From: alice <alice at apc.org>
> Subject: [kictanet] Court jails Pirate Bay founders...Worlds most high
>    profile file sharing website
> To: Kenya ICT Action Network - KICTANet
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> Coming to Kenya soon
>
> ----------------
> Court jails Pirate Bay founders
>
> Pirate Bay's Peter Sunde, speaking on his website: 'We cannot and
> wouldn't pay'
>
> A court in Sweden has jailed four men behind The Pirate Bay (TPB), the
> world's most high-profile file-sharing website, in a landmark case.
>
> Frederik Neij, Gottfrid Svartholm Warg, Carl Lundstrom and Peter Sunde
> were found guilty of breaking copyright law and were sentenced to a  
> year
> in jail.
>
> They were also ordered to pay $4.5m (?3m) in damages.
>
> Record companies welcomed the verdict but the men are to appeal and
> Sunde said they would refuse to pay the fine.
>
> Speaking at an online press conference, he described the verdict as
> "bizarre".
>
> "It's serious to actually be found guilty and get jail time. It's  
> really
> serious. And that's a bit weird," Sunde said.
>
> "It's so bizarre that we were convicted at all and it's even more
> bizarre that we were [convicted] as a team. The court said we were
> organised. I can't get Gottfrid out of bed in the morning. If you're
> going to convict us, convict us of disorganised crime.
>
> "We can't pay and we wouldn't pay. Even if I had the money I would
> rather burn everything I owned, and I wouldn't even give them the  
> ashes."
>
>
> It is almost certain that The Pirate Bay will keep on sailing, long
> after today's court judgement
>
>
> The damages were awarded to a number of entertainment companies,
> including Warner Bros, Sony Music Entertainment, EMI, and Columbia  
> Pictures.
>
> However, the total awarded fell short of the $17.5m in damages and
> interest the firms were seeking.
>
> Speaking to the BBC, the chairman of industry body the International
> Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI) John Kennedy said the
> verdict sent out a clear message.
>
> "These guys weren't making a principled stand, they were out to line
> their own pockets. There was nothing meritorious about their  
> behaviour,
> it was reprehensible.
>
> "The Pirate Bay did immense harm and the damages awarded doesn't even
> get close to compensation, but we never claimed it did.
>
> "There has been a perception that piracy is OK and that the music
> industry should just have to accept it. This verdict will change  
> that,"
> he said.
>
> The Pirate Bay's first server is now a museum exhibit in Stockholm
>
> The four men denied the charges throughout the trial, saying that
> because they did not actually host any files, they were not doing
> anything wrong.
>
> Speaking on Swedish Radio, assistant judge Klarius explained how the
> court reached its findings.
>
> "The court first tried whether there was any question of breach of
> copyright by the file-sharing application and that has been proved,  
> that
> the offence was committed.
>
> "The court then moved on to look at those who acted as a team to  
> operate
> the Pirate Bay file-sharing service, and the court found that they  
> knew
> that material which was protected by copyright but continued to  
> operate
> the service," he said.
>
> A lawyer for Carl Lundstrom, Per Samuelson, told journalists he was
> shocked by the guilty verdict and the severity of the sentence.
>
> "That's outrageous, in my point of view. Of course we will appeal," he
> was quoted as saying by Reuters news agency. "This is the first word,
> not the last. The last word will be ours."
>
> Political issue
>
> Rickard Falkvinge, leader of The Pirate Party - which is trying to
> reform laws around copyright and patents in the digital age - told the
> BBC that the verdict was "a gross injustice".
>
> "This wasn't a criminal trial, it was a political trial. It is just
> gross beyond description that you can jail four people for providing
> infrastructure.
>
> Mark Mulligan from Forrester Research says what was different about
> Pirate Bay
>
> "There is a lot of anger in Sweden right now. File-sharing is an
> institution here and while I can't encourage people to break copyright
> law, I'm not following it and I don't agree with it.
>
> "Today's events make file-sharing a hot political issue and we're  
> going
> to take this to the European Parliament."
>
> The Pirate Bay is the world's most high profile file-sharing website  
> and
> was set up in 2003 by anti-copyright organisation Piratbyran, but for
> the last five years it has been run by individuals.
>
> Millions of files are exchanged using the service every day.
>
> No copyright content is hosted on The Pirate Bay's web servers;  
> instead
> the site hosts "torrent" links to TV, film and music files held on its
> users' computers.
>
>
>
>
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