[kictanet] PS Ndemo, ECONET Scandal aand Vested Interests

Wed Oct 8 18:15:39 EAT 2008

Kenyans CAN own their own telecom. There is a minority owned telecom in the
US and it is huge in Bangladesh. There is no reason why someone couldn't do
it in Kenya.

Two questions: Who has the vision? Who has the funding?

Minority Owned Telecom in the United States

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fsb/fsb_archive/2006/12/01/8395123/index.htm

Grameen Phone in Bangladesh

http://www.grameenphone.com/index.php?id=68

Asante sana,

Crystal

There comes time in everyone's life, where they have to stop talking and
start doing....

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Fred Okono <fredokono at cfsk.org> wrote:

>  Dear John,
>
> You are abviously a very angry person, shooting straight from the hip - the
> only redeeming quality of your anger being that on the face of it, it is
> inspired by a love of country. But can we keep it civil?
>
> Indeed Kenyans should own all our strategic and fundamental infrastructure,
> but nothing is wrong with seeking foreign back-up on our way to that
> rarefied goal. I'd rather we had fully foreign-owned enterprises operating
> locally, employing a large number of my compatriots, paying taxes to the
> government, creating greater consumer utility through competition and
> generating auxilliary business opportunities both upstream and downstream
> than have no such investments, locally owned or otherwise.
>
> And most importantly, there is no law stopping enterprising Kenyans from
> making future bids - WHOLLY KENYAN - for such opportunities! Like you
> rightly pointed out, the Safaricom IPO revealed our hunger for sound
> investments - what we seem to lack are inspired local entrepreneurs to
> harness this. We need more TransCenturies then we can effectively take on
> those foreign investors and competitors without need for extreme
> protectionist policies.
>
> As for PS Ndemo - he is one of our best. The very fact that he is part of
> and an occassional contributor to this forum speaks of his belief in
> transparency and accountability. And personal interraction with him
> reinforces this impression. Please let us not pull down and drag in the mud
> the few really good people we have!
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* John Maina <j.maina at ymail.com>
> *To:* fredokono at cfsk.org
> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> ;
> ke-users <ke-internetusers at bdix.net>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 08, 2008 2:20 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] PS Ndemo, ECONET Scandal aand Vested Interests
>
>  Nick
>
> You see that its only people like you who are in Kenya not to develope
> Kenya but to exploit are the ones supporting Ndemo. Crooks like him. You are
> known and even the BPO society know you as someone who is known not to
> support the general development and economic improvement of thee country.
>
> You are known as someone who even his own staff he has consistently paid
> poorly. When did  Ndemo give Kenyans a chance to buy the companies and they
> said they couldnt? He wouldd rather go to Libya and go and make secret deals
> there. Am not suprised that you support him but know that no matter how long
> it takees. Kenyans will recover Kenya from looters like you
>
> JM
>  ----- Original Message ----
> From: nicholasnesbitt <nnesbitt at kencall.com>
> To: j.maina at ymail.com
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>;
> ke-users <ke-internetusers at bdix.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2008 7:13:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] PS Ndemo, ECONET Scandal aand Vested Interests
>
> I agree totally.
> Sounds like someone needs to do something more productive than try to
> insinuate there is anything wrong here with Kenya becoming a more investor
> friendly and respectful environment....  Perhaps this person needs to put
> their own money where their mouth is and then they will get a very different
> perspective about how they would like their money to be used if they were to
> invest in anything substantial in Kenya...
>
> It is Econet's investors' money.  It is not Kenya's money...
>
> Do we want the investment in Kenya, the competition, the jobs, the
> participation of Essar, or do we want to play a nationalistic game based on
> rich and passively investing Kenyans getting the lion's share of someone's
> investment in Kenya, just because they are powerful and the law mandates
> that they they should have a piece of someone else's hard earned investment?
>  The wananchi wouldn't share in any Econet investment even if it were still
> required by the law to have a local partner, it would be some Mobiletea
> kinds of individuals who would slide up to Econet and scare them into
> partnering with the locals... just the same way as it always has been in
> Kenya and in such countries that adopt such market distorting and investment
> unfriendly policies...
> Bravo, Daktari Ndemo!
>
>
>     Nicholas A. Nesbitt
> Chief Executive Officer
> KenCall EPZ Ltd
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> Sameer Industrial Park, Mombasa Road
> Nairobi, Kenya
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>  On Oct 7, 2008, at 7:01 PM, Crystal Watley wrote:
>
>  I have known Dr. Ndemo for some time now and have found him to be nothing
> less than a man of integrity. I have seen his name drawn through the mud
> next to other politicians in the past. Let me be very honest and frank in
> this matter.
>
> When are we in Kenya going to get past this political mud slinging and look
> at the actual WORK performance of our leaders? When I watch the news I see
> very few Kenyan political leaders really working. They are always
> campaigning and pretending THAT is their job. In many cases it IS their way
> of making money, although it is NOT what we pay them for doing.
>
> Most of our political leaders do not have the ACTUAL work performance
> record of Dr. Ndemo. We know the long hours he works. I have been in his
> office at 7 am and at 7 pm. Those of us of who know him have seen this is
> the rule NOT the exception.
>
> Someday I hope in Kenya we understand we must judge everyone in public
> office by their actual work PERFORMANCE. Politicians are OUR employees. They
> work for the people of Kenya. They should be judged as an employer views an
> employee. How hard are they working for develoment? What good comes from
> their initiatives? Are they professional? Are they in the office working? We
> need to set higher standards for our government. This is not accomplished by
> breaking the good ones down.
>
> Asante sana.
>
> Crystal
>
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <brian at caret.net>wrote:
>
>> Smells like a smear campaign to me.
>>
>> I see nothing that Ndemo has done wrong.
>>
>> B
>>
>> On Oct 7, 2008, at 8:43 AM, John Maina wrote:
>>
>> > http://www.wananchiforums.com/showthread.php?p=3150#post3150
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