[kictanet] Just A Thought!

Sun Mar 30 12:04:20 EAT 2008

Damaris, I don't support poor pay.  But neither do I support loss making enterprise. That's not business. There has to be a correlation between revenue, operating costs, and the investor's return on investment. 
That's what the guy outluubbed and I supported.  Moeeover not every1 will start an enterprise in the world. Thea will always be employees, just as someone said there will always be poor poor peole in the world.  Am sure in ur self employment u r still employing staff. How much do you pay them? Be honest and let's stop idealistic rhetoric.
David 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Damaris wanjiru <dshiro82 at yahoo.com>

Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 00:10:37 
To:kaziafrika at googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Just A Thought!

I disagree totally with my friend makali here who says
that we should congratulate the cyber guy paying 8 k.
it is unfortunate that most employers don't care much
about their employees, if a guy is making lots of
profit, why pay peanuts to someone.
that is where most companies in Kenya go wrong. you
need to motivate your employees to get even better
results.
all in all it is time most young people thought of
moving away from employment to becoming enterprenuars.
for how long will you work from hand to mouth, working
for fare, lunch, rent(with 8 k how are you even going
to pay rent?). huo ni ukoloni mambo leo. unless you
are trying to build your cv with work experience. you
are better off staying at home making some beads and
selling to friends. at the end of the day you will
spend less money, not get rained on in the morning and
you won't have to worry about fare etccc.
the thing messing up most of us young people is
wanting to wake up every morning and be seen carrying
a  hand bag or in a suit going to someone's office to
make them rich.
it's time to throw away the box and think. trust you
me i did it that 2 years ago and i'm reaping the
fruits of being self -employed. 

and forget that story of needing finances to start up
baaah blaah blaaah.

God is a fair guy, he gave us all talents, make use of
your talents and you'll not only be enjoying your work
but be reaping great fruits.

Best regards,
Damaris

--- David Makali <dmakali at yahoo.com> wrote:

> 
> Folks, 
> I think the person who offered that job of 8k should
> be congratulated. S/he is an entrepreneur. Jobs are
> offered to willing takers and i suppose as we go on
> an
> on here, there are already applicants or the slots
> have already been filled.  I don't understand what
> this whole saga is about: how many of you
> ventilating
> on this offer pay your house helps that amount? Yet
> they most likely work more hours? And guards? 
> 
> Maurice is spot on: pay has to be relative to the
> income generated. Its take it or leave it. That is
> not
> to advocate prejudice or injustice; its being
> pragmatic in today's world.
> Lets move on.
> David
> 
> 
> --- Maurice Barasa <barazam at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > The 8K/month is really low considering the high
> cost
> > of living we experience in Kenya. Maybe we can try
> > and advice the Cyber guy and others who may be in
> > this forum that have plans to start by considering
> > the numbers they operate on.
> > 
> > As stated the Cyber has 8 computer and its open
> 12.5
> > hours. This means that if the cyber has all the
> > eight computer being paid for at an average of 7
> Hrs
> > a day coz not guaranteed that the computers will
> be
> > running all thro, then the computers will earn a
> > monthly average of KES 80640 (running for an
> average
> > of 24 days a month X 8 hrs/day * 60KES/hr since
> > assumed the Christian lady will be allowed a
> Sunday
> > off and they charge 1KES/Min.) and then assumed
> > there are other things like printing and
> > photocopying >KES10000 making it a total of 90K
> > Subtracting the costs before salary, say rent, ISP
> > charges.... assuming its 40K (advice if wrong),
> > meaning the net is around 50K,
> > 
> > What would be the expected salary for the
> attendant
> > considering that the owner also needs to make some
> > profit?
> > 
> > 
> > Have a thoughtful day,
> > 
> > Maurice
> > 
> > 
> > From: catherine ongoro 
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 10:29 AM
> > To: kaziafrika at googlegroups.com 
> > Subject: Re: Just A Thought!
> > 
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > I disagree with Dan. The problem wasn't with the
> > phrase which in my view is very o.k. The problem
> is
> > with the specs that is  christian (what about
> > qualified Kenyans from one of the very many
> > religious followings we have in Kenya?)and the
> 12.5
> > working hrs for Kes. 8,000.00.
> > 
> > Catherine.
> > 
> > 
> > dan chira <danchira2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >   Hello Wanakazi,
> > 
> >   If you read the original email, the guy's
> opening
> > remarks were:
> > 
> >   "sambaza the following slot. There are hundreds
> of
> > able people who qualify and yet they don't have
> > access to internet, so people should speak of this
> > vacancies with their friends who don't have access
> > to Internet. Most of the online applicants I have
> > come across are people who have options, either
> they
> > want to switch jobs etc and so the real needy
> person
> > is locked away. So guys be kind to involve those
> > guys who even can't access Kaziafrica...
> > 
> > 
> >   I think most of the people who acted emotionally
> > didnt understand the phrase, and they went ahead
> to 
> > "lock" other people a vancacy that can change
> their
> > lifes!
> > 
> >   Just a thought!!!
> > 
> >   Danny
> > 
> >   -- 
> >   Real Men Fear God!
> >   See No Evil,Hear No Evil,Say No Evil. 
> > 
> > 
> >
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