[kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 13, Issue 37

Fri Jun 20 14:05:31 EAT 2008

Thank you in advance Bw. PS. Also the RFP on the BPO Park if possible.
These and other useful documents will help us give better informed
input. BTW the ICT Board appears to have no link on the Ministry
website?

Kind Regards,
Waudo
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:06:34 +0000, bitange at jambo.co.ke said:
> It will be posted on our web asp.
> 
> Ndemo
> 
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> From: "Gilda Odera" <godera at skyweb.co.ke>
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> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:25:03 
> To: <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 13, Issue 37
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> Did I miss an email giving details of where to access the Master Plan or
> has 
> it not been availed?
> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Gilda Odera
> Managing Director
> Skyweb Technologies Ltd
> Tel: 254-20-2711446/2711760
> Fax: 254-20-2713934
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> >   1. Re: Kenya's new registry system (wesley kiriinya)
> >   2. Re: ICT Master Plan debate (pwere at cascadegl.com)
> >   3. Policy Issue Briefs: Key activities the ICANN community will
> >      be working on during the Paris meeting (alice wanjira)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:26:46 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: wesley kiriinya <kiriinya2000 at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's new registry system
> > To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> > Message-ID: <575580.74948.qm at web34701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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> > Security was 1 of the items I talked about. There is a thin line between 
> > security being used as a wrong excuse not to implement a system and where 
> > it's a real concern.
> >
> > Anyway if all appropriate measures have been taken then it's OK. As I 
> > said, I appreciate that effort by the Gvmnt.
> >
> > --- On Thu, 6/19/08, Brian Longwe <blongwe at gmail.com> wrote:
> > From: Brian Longwe <blongwe at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's new registry system
> > To: kiriinya2000 at yahoo.com
> > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> > Date: Thursday, June 19, 2008, 11:48 AM
> >
> > I would like to balance this discussion by pointing out a historical 
> > fact.....
> >
> > Due to "security" concerns our country was held back from a liberalised 
> > telecoms industry for years.
> >
> > There were a lot of misplaced fears which originated from blanket 
> > generalisations of new technology and a fear of loss of control by the 
> > powers that be.
> >
> >
> > When I set up KIXP at the end of 2000, it was shut down within two weeks 
> > because Telkom Kenya insinuated that it presented a national security 
> > risk. It took us one whole year to educate, enlighten and lobby almost 
> > every component of the Executive in order to get KIXP re-opened.
> >
> >
> > Today it is considered a 'national resource' and KRA even wants to have it 
> > gazetted so that it can receive 24-hour physical security since it plays 
> > such an integral part of Kenya's economy.
> >
> > I am not saying that we should blind ourselves to the consideration of 
> > security concerns, just that it is very easy to further delays innovation 
> > and development with hyped up discussions about security (or more 
> > appropriately insecurity).
> >
> >
> > best,
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > -- 
> > Brian Munyao Longwe
> > e-mail: blongwe at gmail.com
> > cell: + 254 722 518 744
> > blog : zinjlog.blogspot.com
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:40 PM, Judy Okite <judyokite at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Gentlemen,
> >
> > all your arguments are in place.....unfortunately we do not have a cyber 
> > crime law in place nor a data privacy law...(subject to be 
> > corrected)....so before we go very far.....we need to make Kenyans 
> > understand....
> >
> >
> >
> > 1. What is personal/private data?....very few understand that and why it 
> > may need to be protected...
> >
> > 2. what are the implications of the data,that this, system will hold, in 
> > the hands of a third party?...from here...we can ask for a document for 
> > public scrutiny.....what security measures...are in place...etc
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 1:06 PM,  <tyrus at icsit.jkuat.ac.ke> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Wesley,
> >
> > I totally agree with you on this point.
> >
> >
> >
> > Its one thing to set up a system where you will have citizens access their
> >
> > details and its another entirely different thing to ensure its security is
> >
> > not compromised. Even as these guys come up with this revolutionary
> >
> > system, am sure they have security in mind and even more importantly have
> >
> > taken the necessary steps to ensuring that its not compromised. What I
> >
> > always have qualms with as you are well aware of in skunkworks, is the
> >
> > reluctance by the developers or system operators to provide room for
> >
> > Independent Penetration Testing. Granted this is not a panacea for
> >
> > hack-proofing the system but will make the system devoid of common
> >
> > vulnerabilities like what we saw in the ipo website.
> >
> >
> >
> > In America, identity theft has occurred even on their secure servers alike
> >
> > but if you look at the frequency, its relatively low since tests are
> >
> > carried out on the system very often and when loop holes are discovered
> >
> > relevant authorities are informed.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Its a very novel idea the Government is pursuing but even as we speak
> >
> > there are notable Govt bodies whose IT infrastructure's security is very
> >
> > sketchy. If there was a dedicated body in the ICT Board to dedicatedly
> >
> > look into security issues regarding IT growth and implementation, I guess
> >
> > there would be standards set even when putting a very basic implementation
> >
> > like a web-site.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > "fyodor"
> >
> >
> >
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> > Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:02:11 +0300
> > From: pwere at cascadegl.com
> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Master Plan debate
> > To: waudo siganga <emailsignet at mailcan.com>
> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
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> > How do we access the Master Plan? I would like a copy.
> >
> >
> >
> > Quoting waudo siganga <emailsignet at mailcan.com>:
> >
> >> Yes, if there is a place where the plan or the summary can be
> >> downloaded I would also be interested in a copy. Waudo
> >>
> >>  On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:23:07 -0700, "Joshua Goldstein"
> >> <joshgoldstein at google.com> said:
> >> People make a plan work, a plan alone seldom makes people work 
> >> (Confucius).
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> > Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:42:29 +0300
> > From: "alice wanjira" <wanjiraalice at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [kictanet] Policy Issue Briefs: Key activities the ICANN
> > community will be working on during the Paris meeting
> > To: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
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> > Posted on ICANN's website at <http://www.icann.org/policy/briefs/> are
> > /Policy Issue Briefs/ <http://www.icann.org/policy/briefs/> about some
> > of the key activities the ICANN community is working on in Paris and 
> > beyond:
> >
> >Domain Name Monetization
> > <http://www.icann.org/policy/briefs/domain-name-monetization-jun08.pdf>
> >
> > Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs)
> > <http://www.icann.org/policy/briefs/internationalized-domain-names-jun08.pdf>
> >
> >
> > New gTLDs <http://www.icann.org/policy/briefs/new-gtlds-jun08.pdf>
> >
> > WHOIS <http://www.icann.org/policy/briefs/whois-jun08.pdf>
> >
> >
> > /Policy Issue Briefs/ <http://www.icann.org/policy/briefs/> are basic
> > introductions to important areas of Internet policy development that are
> > being addressed by the ICANN community's bottom-up, consensus based,
> > policymaking structure. They are designed and written by ICANN Policy
> > Staff to accommodate newcomers to ICANN, as well as ICANN issue veterans
> > who may desire basic information on an unfamiliar issue.  Translated
> > versions of all /Issue Briefs/ will be available soon online.  We would
> > appreciate your suggestions of additional topics for future /Policy
> > Issue Briefs <http://www.icann.org/policy/briefs/> -- /please send them
> > to /policy-staff at icann.org <mailto:policy-staff at icann.org>.  /Comments
> > on the substance of these /Issue Briefs/ is also welcome and should be
> > sent to the same email address.
> >
> > We encourage people to go beyond these brief introductions (if they are
> > not involved in these issues) and learn more about the work of the ICANN
> > community. To facilitate this, links to information on current Policy
> > development activities are provided in the left side-bar of this webpage
> > <http://www.icann.org/policy/briefs/>, and we have included in each
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> > Thank you for your interest and participation in ICANN policy development.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Denise Michel
> > ICANN VP, Policy
> > policy-staff at icann.org <mailto:policy-staff at icann.org>
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