[kictanet] Discipline & Ethics - Re: Legislation and Regulation fore-Commerce in Keny

[Bill Kagai]

In only 100 words, let me say that something is giving in here. There is
clearly inability by the various 'centers' in providing leadership...which
is worrisome because if we 'IT Experts' cannot handle ourselves with
decorum, then how can you convince your cousin in the village not to go and
kill the other tribesman??

If I recall clearly, some months ago, the Computer Society (Read Waudo) had
the Vice President preside over the awards occasion...and...around the same
time, the engineering exhibition (Read..Kevit) also had some high level
attendees. In other words, what am saying is that I saw synergy at its best
and clearly none had advantage over the other. Competition and anonymous
entities breed healthy working niches.

In my honest opinion, and specifically referring to Waudo, it is pessimistic
when finally the genie grants you a wish, you ask the genie to kill your
neighbours 98 cows so that you can both have two cows each. I think, your
deliberate attempt to '%$£"$£' KIF is myopic. Ask the genie to grant you 98
cows not to kill your neighbours 98 of them.

As a conclusion, I must admit that I have never received an email (and I
read all my email, including spam) calling me for an AGM/election of any of
these organisations...KIF, KICTANET, Consumer Organisation (Alex) and CSK. I
have attended sessions in all and some have not held elections in more than
ten years. Apparently election fever does not only eat our politicians. Last
time I checked, Alice was coordinating Kictanet and yesterday I learnt that
there is also a chairman. Some expert also came to my office last year to
discuss these structures in Kictanet and nothing ever materialised.

In the final analysis, this means that anyone can take advantage of a
society that is crippled by bad governance. ICT industry reeks of it. It
begins by electing officials acceptable to the players. Who is ready to
offer the much needed leadership???

-- 
Bildad Kagai
MD - MediaCorp Limited
Nairobi Stock Exchange Authorised Information Vendor
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P. O. Box 20311 - 00200
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On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 10:51 AM, wesley kiriinya <kiriinya2000 at yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Gentlemen,
>
> Before these so called foreigners got these positions that Kenyans would
> have occupied, what were Kenyans waiting for? (Honest question.)
>
> If there is a higher appointing authority that picks these so called
> foreigners over Kenyans then it's them to blame (if there is a good reason).
>
> That said, as much as free speech is appreciated, so is discretion. Sorry
> to say but it is embarrassing to read some of these posts.
>
> Regards.
>
>
> --- On *Sun, 7/13/08, waudo siganga <emailsignet at mailcan.com>* wrote:
>
> From: waudo siganga <emailsignet at mailcan.com>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Discipline & Ethics - Re: Legislation and
> Regulation fore-Commerce in Kenya
> To: kiriinya2000 at yahoo.com
> Cc: "'kictanet-lists'" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 9:19 AM
>
> Hi All - I am the one that asserted that Kenyan (ICT) associations should
> be run by Kenyans and I stand by that. It has absolutely nothing to do with
> racism. Every country has policies to protect its people. Even in the USA
> you can only stand for president if you were born American. Is that racism?
> Associations are at the heart of pushing for policy and it pains me to see
> foreigners jostling Kenyans out of the way  and being the ones running up
> and down the Government corridors carrying "position papers".
>
> I find it deplorable that Brian is using his position on the list to
> threaten to unsubscribe those who do not agree with his views and consign
> them to the Nyayo House dungeons. Brian you have been partisan on these
> issues throughout. You are issuing "apologies" to people you already sided
> with and they are quickly "accepting". At one time you were saying we visit
> KIF to see how they run meetings as though suggesting Kenyans do not know
> how to run meetings. Is this the Brian I knew or someone using your mail
> account? Tafadhali, wacha wananchi wasema hata kama uko pande ile ingine.
>
> Waudo
>
>
>
>
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