[kictanet] Lets stick to the ICT Policy Agenda

Tue Jul 8 09:59:37 EAT 2008

Hi All,

Came across this interesting piece and thought members could have a look.

http://politics.nationmedia.com/Blog/default.asp?Display=294

Regards,

Jotham

--- On Fri, 7/4/08, Leonard Mware <mleonardo at yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Leonard Mware <mleonardo at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Lets stick to the ICT Policy Agenda
To: jokilimo at yahoo.com
Cc: "New Vision List" <newvisionkenya at yahoogroups.com>, "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Date: Friday, July 4, 2008, 5:33 AM

A cross post.  

Alex Gakuru <alex.gakuru at yahoo.com> wrote:  List policy certainly now re-railed. We do not wish anyone to unsubscribe.
Wish you also moderatorly issue the command chmod "lurk" to 777 for another;)

Chao,

--- On Thu, 7/3/08, John Walubengo wrote:

> From: John Walubengo 
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Lets stick to the ICT Policy Agenda
> To: alex.gakuru at yahoo.com
> Cc: "New Vision List" , "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" 
> Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 12:09 AM
> Shem, Alex et al,
> 
> Am not sure if this is the right forum to discuss or
> speculate on who is the bigger thief within the ICT
> industry. And if someone wishes to go in the
 direction,
> they must do so on conclusive evidence or at least try to
> find a way to tie (disguise?) that discussion towards ICT
> Policies - e.g. what ICT Policies need to be in place to
> pre-empt such recurrence.
> 
> If we dont stick to these guidelines, I foresee a lot of
> members un-subscribing...starting with me.
> 
> walu.
> By the Way: I do love juicy stories, I just dont think that
> this is the space for them.
> 
> --- On Thu, 7/3/08, Shem Ochuodho
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Shem Ochuodho 
> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: Bulk of KenyanWealth
> Owned by Foreigners
> > To: jwalu at yahoo.com
> > Cc: "New Vision List"
> , "KICTAnet ICT
> Policy Discussions"
> 
> > Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 10:41
 AM
> > Gakuru,
> > 
> > I took the State to court 4 years ago; the matter has
> never
> > been heard. Unfortunately, being in court, it even
> can't
> > be discussed openly. They control the courts. If there
> is
> > anything more you know than I do, I would like to hear
> it.
> > So/And that would be a wrong excuse not to ask
> queries.
> > 
> > Shem
> > 
> > --- On Thu, 7/3/08, Alex Gakuru
> > wrote:
> > 
> > From: Alex Gakuru 
> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: Bulk of KenyanWealth
> Owned by
> > Foreigners
> > To: shemochuodho at yahoo.com
> > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"
> > 
> > Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 12:58 AM
> > 
> > Did the pipeline matter end to
 cast the first stone? 
> > 
> > --- On Wed, 7/2/08, Shem Ochuodho
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > From: Shem Ochuodho
> 
> > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: Bulk of KenyanWealth
> > Owned by Foreigners
> > > To: alex.gakuru at yahoo.com
> > > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"
> > 
> > > Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 8:30 AM
> > > I hope PS Ndemo is/has been watching the
> proceedings
> > in
> > > Parliament (re Hon. Kimunya Censor Debate re
> Grand
> > Regency,
> > > Safaricom IPO, Telkom Kenya, etc!!!).
> > > 
> > > Shem
> > > 
> > > --- On Sun, 6/29/08, wesley kiriinya
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > From: wesley
 kiriinya
> 
> > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] {Disarmed} Re:
> > [NewVisionKenya]
> > > Fwd: [africa-oped] Bulk of KenyanWealth Owned by
> > Foreigners
> > > To: "Shem Ochuodho"
> > > 
> > > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"
> > > 
> > > Date: Sunday, June 29, 2008, 8:30 AM
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > "...Way forward, mobilize resources the
> > Transcentury
> > > way and buy out all that which is owned by
> > foreiners. 
> > > They did not steal what they own. They simply
> caught
> > us
> > > napping."
> > > 
> > > Mmmhhh makes me wonder about this Grand Regency
> thing.
> >
 And
> > > many other things.
> > > 
> > > --- On Sun, 6/22/08, bitange at jambo.co.ke
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > From: bitange at jambo.co.ke
> 
> > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] {Disarmed} Re:
> > [NewVisionKenya]
> > > Fwd: [africa-oped] Bulk of KenyanWealth Owned by
> > Foreigners
> > > To: kiriinya2000 at yahoo.com
> > > Cc: "Kazi Afrika"
> > > ,
> "KICTAnet
> > ICT
> > > Policy Discussions"
> > > 
> > > Date: Sunday, June 22, 2008, 11:01 AM
> > > 
> > > Although in telcom sector the law requiores local
> > > partnership, what the research
> > > is telling us is not a problem but an opportunity
> that
> > we
>
 > > must take advantage
> > > of. The Tea estates referred to here have
> changed
> > hands
> > > several times. It is
> > > therefore
> > > imperative that when they float them, we shall
> > mobilize
> > > resources to
> > > buy them out.
> > > 
> > > It is not enough to complain and leave the issue
> to
> > die. 
> > > There is need to
> > > educate our people that in a capitalist economy,
> there
> > are
> > > exit routs to pride
> > > ourselves with ownweship of our properties. Some
> > advamced
> > > countries own far
> > > less than 31 percent of their assets. 
> > > 
> > > We are fortunate that the investment bug has hit
> Kenya
> > if
> > > Safaricom IPO is
> > >
 anything to go by. Unless we want to radically
> change
> > our
> > > economic orientation
> > > with respect to ownership, which I know it is not
> > possible,
> > > there is nothing to
> > > fuss about.
> > > 
> > > Way forward, mobilize resources the Transcentury
> way
> > and
> > > buy out all that which
> > > is owned by foreiners. They did not steal what
> they
> > own. 
> > > They simply caught us
> > > napping.
> > > 
> > > Ndemo
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