[kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 11, Issue 33
Gilda Odera
godera at skyweb.co.ke
Wed Apr 23 11:38:21 EAT 2008
I would like to agree with Harry and Waudo. There is dire need of one body
to harmonise all the ICT activities being handled by the different ICT
bodies. I believe KEPSA is on the right track on this one.
Gilda Odera
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> From: "waudo siganga" <emailsignet at mailcan.com>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority?
> To: "Harry Hare" <harry at africanedevelopment.org>
> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
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> You are right Harry. All these bodies should be brought under an
> umbrella Authority. Yet another function that could fall under
> the Authority
> would be one regulating ICT educational and training standards,
> certification and professionalism. This is an area the Government
> is not
> taking seriously and it is not clear which Ministry to deal with
> at the
> moment. An ICT Authority may be better placed to actualize this
> by
> bringing together the stakeholders and various Ministries such as
> education, Infocom, labour,
> Science & Tech, etc. We need to have in mind that we have big ICT
> plans for the country and these can only be achieved by having
> proper and structured capacity
> building and professionalism. (KEPSA is advocating for enactment
> of IT Practioners
> Management Act).
>
> If you are interested, you can become acquainted with the KEPSA
> proposals by clicking [1]here.
>
> Waudo
> On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:02:26 +0300, [2]"Harry Hare"
> <harry at africanedevelopment.org> said:
>> Dear Walu and Waudo,
>>
>> You may all be right in your positions, but structurally
> speaking, all
>> the
>> agencies mentioned by Waudo ought to be under one
> administrative unit for
>> effective management of the sector. Here I have in mind an ICT
> Authority,
>> with functional boards/departments/agencies whatever we may
> want to call
>> them, that may include;
>>
>> - GITS - Government ICT Implementation and Technical Support
> function
>> - eGov - eGov Policy and Strategic function
>> - ICT Board - Marketing and Promotion function
>> - CCK - Regulatory function
>> - NCS - National ICT Policy Advisory function
>>
>> Of course the mandate, functions and the legality of the
> institutions may
>> have to be revisited and probably aligned and sharpened for
> effective
>> operations. So the proposed authority can be used to converge
> the sector
>> for
>> and building synergies across the said institutions for
> effective
>> management
>> and service delivery.
>>
>> Regards
>> Harry
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>> On Behalf Of waudo siganga
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 3:59 PM
>> To: [4]harry at africanedevelopment.org
>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority?
>>
>> I would not see any overlap Walu as the bodies you have
> mentioned have
>> their specific mandates which are not encompassing the ICT
> universe.
>> Roughly I think ICT Board is for marketing (Min. of INFOCOM),
> GITS to
>> run Gov. ICT services (Min. of Finance) and the e-Secretariat
> to
>> implement the e-Gov. strategy (Office of Pres.). I am always
> open to
>> correction but meantime I am endorsing the KEPSA proposal.
>> Waudo
>>
>> On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 04:23:50 -0700 (PDT), "John Walubengo"
>> <[5]jwalu at yahoo.com> said:
>> > Waudo,
>> >
>> > jst wondering if we dont already have enough overlaps
>> > between ICT Board, eGovt Secretariate, Government
>> > Info-Technology Services (GITS) and now you (KEPSA?) want
>> > to add on an ICT authority?
>> >
>> > walu.
>> >
>> > --- waudo [6]siganga <emailsignet at mailcan.com> wrote:
>> > All this ultimately suggests the necessity for the
>> > establishment of an oversight statutory
>> > ICT Authority as is being proposed by KEPSA to the ongoing
>> > Government harmonization Committee.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --- waudo [7]siganga <emailsignet at mailcan.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Actually the Government never voted and was never called
>> > > upon to
>> > > vote on this issue. The Government only facilitated the
>> > > stakeholder committee at KEBS and national voting was
>> > > done by
>> > > members of that committee. The overall issue however
>> > > reiterates
>> > > what I see as a persistent problem regarding ICT and
>> > > Government:
>> > > ICT is wide and diverse, as well as being horizontal to
>> > > the
>> > > Governm
>> > ent structure. This sometimes leads to matters
>> > > that are
>> > > considered "ICT" not revolving around a central spoke in
>> > > the
>> > > Governemnt structure. So for example KEBS (and by
>> > > extension
>> > > issues of ICT standards) falls under the Ministry of
>> > > trade. In
>> > > the committee that handled OOXML there was no
>> > > representative from
>> > > the Ministry of Info and Comm., which was a mistake
>> > > because the
>> > > Government was a Stakeholder. All this ultimately
>> > > suggests the
>> > > necessity for the establishment of an oversight statutory
>> > > ICT
>> > > Authority as is being proposed by KEPSA to the ongoing
>> > > Government
>> > > harmonization Committee.
>> > >
>> > > Waudo
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:14:43 -0700 (PDT), "Rebecca
>> > > Wanjiku" <rebeccawanji
>> > > [8]ku at yahoo.com> said:
>> > >
>> > > Microsoft denies threatening to withdraw
>> > > funding
>> > >
>> > > Microsoft East Africa has dismissed allegations that it
>> > > threatened to withdraw funding to Kenya if the government
>> > > did not
>> > > vote "yes" on OOXML.
>> > >
>> > > Louis Otieno, Microsoft general manager in East and
>> > > Southern
>> > > Africa denied the allegations, saying that Microsoft EA
>> > > acted
>> > > appropriately.
>> > >
>> > > "We've acted appropriately in all instances. And we are
>> > > grateful
>> > > that the National Body members engaged in this process
>> > > collaboratively and constructively," Otieno said.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > [9]computerworld.co.ke/articles/2008/04/21/microsoft-denies-t
>> > > hreatening-withdraw-funding
>> > >
>> > > Tel. 254 720 318 925
>> > > blog:[10]beckyit.blogspot.com/
>> > >
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> References
>
> 1. http://www.cskonline.org/downloads/kepsa_proposals.doc
> 2. mailto:harry at africanedevelopment.org
> 3.
> mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=africanedevelopment.org at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> 4. mailto:harry at africanedevelopment.org
> 5. mailto:jwalu at yahoo.com
> 6. mailto:emailsignet at mailcan.com
> 7. mailto:emailsignet at mailcan.com
> 8. mailto:ku at yahoo.com
> 9.
> file://localhost/tmp/linkstmp/computerworld.co.ke/articles/2008/04/21/microsoft
> 10. file://localhost/tmp/linkstmp/beckyit.blogspot.com/
> 11. file://localhost/tmp/linkstmp/us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51733/*http
> 12. mailto:emailsignet at mailcan.com
> 13. mailto:kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> 14.
> file://localhost/tmp/linkstmp/lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet
> 15. mailto:jwalu at yahoo.com
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> From: MEldon at symphony.co.ke
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority?
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> First, it's a shame that e-Gov and GITS have not merged. They should, and
> in a 'neutral' ministry like OP.
>
> Then, as far as the coordination need is concerned I see a number of
> options:
> - have one of the bodies convene the others to handle issues where more
> than one is involved
> - expand the mandate of one of the existing ones to cover the need
> identified by Waudo
> - the option mooted by Waudo
>
> Mike Eldon
>
>
>
> From: "waudo siganga" <emailsignet at mailcan.com>
>
> To: meldon at symphony.co.ke
>
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>
> Date: 04/22/2008 05:56 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I would not see any overlap Walu as the bodies you have mentioned have
> their specific mandates which are not encompassing the ICT universe.
> Roughly I think ICT Board is for marketing (Min. of INFOCOM), GITS to
> run Gov. ICT services (Min. of Finance) and the e-Secretariat to
> implement the e-Gov. strategy (Office of Pres.). I am always open to
> correction but meantime I am endorsing the KEPSA proposal.
> Waudo
>
> On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 04:23:50 -0700 (PDT), "John Walubengo"
> <jwalu at yahoo.com> said:
>> Waudo,
>>
>> jst wondering if we dont already have enough overlaps
>> between ICT Board, eGovt Secretariate, Government
>> Info-Technology Services (GITS) and now you (KEPSA?) want
>> to add on an ICT authority?
>>
>> walu.
>>
>> --- waudo siganga <emailsignet at mailcan.com> wrote:
>> All this ultimately suggests the necessity for the
>> establishment of an oversight statutory
>> ICT Authority as is being proposed by KEPSA to the ongoing
>> Government harmonization Committee.
>>
>>
>>
>> --- waudo siganga <emailsignet at mailcan.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Actually the Government never voted and was never called
>> > upon to
>> > vote on this issue. The Government only facilitated the
>> > stakeholder committee at KEBS and national voting was
>> > done by
>> > members of that committee. The overall issue however
>> > reiterates
>> > what I see as a persistent problem regarding ICT and
>> > Government:
>> > ICT is wide and diverse, as well as being horizontal to
>> > the
>> > Governm
>> ent structure. This sometimes leads to matters
>> > that are
>> > considered "ICT" not revolving around a central spoke in
>> > the
>> > Governemnt structure. So for example KEBS (and by
>> > extension
>> > issues of ICT standards) falls under the Ministry of
>> > trade. In
>> > the committee that handled OOXML there was no
>> > representative from
>> > the Ministry of Info and Comm., which was a mistake
>> > because the
>> > Government was a Stakeholder. All this ultimately
>> > suggests the
>> > necessity for the establishment of an oversight statutory
>> > ICT
>> > Authority as is being proposed by KEPSA to the ongoing
>> > Government
>> > harmonization Committee.
>> >
>> > Waudo
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:14:43 -0700 (PDT), "Rebecca
>> > Wanjiku" <rebeccawanji
>> > ku at yahoo.com> said:
>> >
>> > Microsoft denies threatening to withdraw
>> > funding
>> >
>> > Microsoft East Africa has dismissed allegations that it
>> > threatened to withdraw funding to Kenya if the government
>> > did not
>> > vote "yes" on OOXML.
>> >
>> > Louis Otieno, Microsoft general manager in East and
>> > Southern
>> > Africa denied the allegations, saying that Microsoft EA
>> > acted
>> > appropriately.
>> >
>> > "We've acted appropriately in all instances. And we are
>> > grateful
>> > that the National Body members engaged in this process
>> > collaboratively and constructively," Otieno said.
>> >
>> >
>> http://computerworld.co.ke/articles/2008/04/21/microsoft-denies-t
>> > hreatening-withdraw-funding
>> >
>> > Tel. 254 720 318 925
>> > blog:http://beckyit.blogspot.com/
>> >
>> > _________________________________________________________
>> >
>> > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with
>> > Yahoo!
>> > Mobile. [1]Try it now.
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>> > References
>> >
>> > 1.
>> >
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