[kictanet] Holding our Leaders Accountable
Eric Osiakwan
eric at afrispa.org
Sun May 20 12:39:39 EAT 2007
Gentlemen, this is becoming a trade negotiation and i would submit
that you consider other interests in terms of the use of this platform.
Thank you.
On 19 May 2007, at 15:10, Kai U. Wulff wrote:
> You see Alex …
>
>
>
> I leave the talking to the content providers and ISPs. They have to
> come and propose to me if they like the way I look .. Maybe they
> can even tell me what to wear as the bride ….
>
>
>
> Please understand, we listen to the market and saw a need for an
> infrastructure that can provide free access to the masses. I have
> an idea what could be done with the infrastructure but asking KDN
> to DO IT is asking us to go against our believes!
>
>
>
> I usually complain that the market does not give us sufficient
> direction and I would like to repeat this here. You see, we commit
> large amounts of money into infrastructure projects in the hope of
> uptake of services. Since we can’t dictate the services provided on
> this infrastructure we are at the mercy of those service providers
> and their customers.
>
>
>
> The basic terms will be: Whatever someone wants to provide as free
> content, will be free (no KDN charge), whatever is charged, KDN
> will charge a percentage. Since there are millions of business
> cases possible, I propose we stop the arrange marriage culture and
> get to know each other first before having the first kiss or more.
> My aim is not to make you drunk and slip you roofies .. since you
> know where my house is!
>
>
>
> And thank you for forgiving me that I am German and that I believe
> all business is mutual and based on rust and handshake .. I don’t
> think I will grow old enough to change that!
>
>
>
> Kai
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke at kictanet.or.ke
> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke at kictanet.or.ke] On
> Behalf Of Alex Gakuru
> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 14:48
> To: kai.wulff at kdn.co.ke
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Holding our Leaders Accountable
>
>
>
> Unfortunately my culture prevents me from negotiating on "a goat
> that is still locked up in the goat pen" else I may end up stuck
> with one without teeth.
>
> Also in marriage, we normally send young men "spies" to the girl's
> home to check on her family history before wazee later go to pay
> dowry to cement the relationship.
>
> I excuse because you are German, but you understand entering into
> negotiations without first ascertaining the finer details
> jeopardizes my business culture norms. Kindly publish comprehensive
> terms to enable me to first study them and determine if they suit
> my needs. Thanks.
>
> But for your immediate business, talk to international mirror
> services companies such as akamai, sourceforge, etc and get a
> Kenya-hosted mirror server peered to KIXP here http://
> ceb.sourceforge.net/private-properties.html#sourceforge.mirrors
>
> Kenyan download users will experience extremely fast download
> speeds, save KDN on international traffic and you will get cash
> from the those companies and advertisers at your portal. Maybe
> talk with Michuki of KENIC on akamai clusters.
>
> Alex
>
> "Kai U. Wulff" <kai.wulff at kdn.co.ke> wrote:
>
> Alex,
>
>
>
> The preferred model would be a revenue share .. not fixed rent ..
> So why don’t you start for now?
>
>
>
> Kai
>
>
>
> From: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke at kictanet.or.ke
> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke at kictanet.or.ke] On
> Behalf Of Alex Gakuru
> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 13:54
> To: kai.wulff at kdn.co.ke
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Holding our Leaders Accountable
>
>
>
> Kai,
>
> Save for the "landlord" ( because earthly lords are something
> else...) your explanation suffices for now, and thank you for the
> local content effort.
>
> Because KDN owns the portal, it would help consumers and VAS
> providers much if you first published visitors rights and tenancy
> agreements at the portal, for example, imagine "consumer" Ruto's
> distress on all his visitors directed to web neighbours.
>
> In short, please start by publishing some standard terms of
> services, use, hire, security, uptime guarantees (you moved your
> pages abroad..) and most of all the tariffs. These should be
> independently verifiable by ,among others, the CCK and thanks for
> the effort.
>
> If you terms appeal to me, I may actually hire some space but if
> they have ropes, strings, or threads attached, I will shout out
> loud. This is the best self-regulation I know.
>
> Let "KDN still believes that infrastructure and Services/Content
> should be separated" stand out.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alex
>
> "Kai U. Wulff" <kai.wulff at kdn.co.ke> wrote:
>
> No,
>
>
>
> We have the “Shopping Mall” to which entry is supposed to be free.
> We want now content companies to provide FREE and PREMIUM content
> on that portal and we will just be the landlord.
>
>
>
> Alex, as you know, there is only a certain amount of people who can
> afford the full menu. Imagine, you can have your local news, your
> political information, E-Learning for free and only if you want to
> buy premium services like VoD, International connections, VoIP …..
> you pay for the service directly to the provider. You can now
> change the provider at any time if the service levels and prices
> dictate so ..
>
>
>
> We are trying to stimulate the market for content creation. Right
> now, you pay the same if you want to access local content (although
> the cost for the provider is much lower) like if you access
> International content.
>
>
>
> The weekend of the first of May, we had our first trial and got
> more than 22 000 different users login into the Butterfly, that is
> 10 times more than usual. That tells me there is a demand that is
> held back by costs. This weekend we try again, with bigger routers
> and more capacity. Unfortunately what we have seen, 99% of the
> requests are leaving the country .. no local content (I even admit
> that we shifted our webpage for maintenance to abroad but will have
> it back from 01.06.).
>
>
>
> KDN still believes that infrastructure and Services/Content should
> be separated.
>
>
>
> Kai
>
>
>
> From: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke at kictanet.or.ke
> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke at kictanet.or.ke] On
> Behalf Of Alex Gakuru
> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 10:43
> To: kai.wulff at kdn.co.ke
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Holding our Leaders Accountable
>
>
>
> KDN also a content company, not just infrastructure? I am not
> opposed just want to be clear, because it could become another
> cross-e-media issue.
>
> "Kai U. Wulff" <kai.wulff at kdn.co.ke> wrote:
>
>
> Alice,
>
> As you know, we are testing this weekend again how far we can push the
> Butterfly access and have given it free. In the meantime I would
> like ICT
> maternity/fraternity to think about what content we can provide on
> the free
> Butterfly portal which can be accessed by EVERYBODY free of charge.
> CSR and
> policy related matters could be one of the items?
>
> Kai
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke at kictanet.or.ke
> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke at kictanet.or.ke] On
> Behalf Of
> alice
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 12:10
> To: kai.wulff at kdn.co.ke
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Holding our Leaders Accountable
>
> Thanks MM yes indeed the ICT maternity/fraternity is a dynamic one and
> would like to suggest that we try and link ICTs to livelihood
> issues as
> Walu suggests and perhaps over chai , as Kanja suggests, present it
> clearly and simply within that context.
>
> best
> alice
>
>
> Muriuki Mureithi wrote:
> > Many thanks for the comments that have come through the list . it
> shows
> the
> > dynamism of the ICT fraternity .
> >
> > The absence of the presidential aspirants talks loudly that
> either they
> are
> > not familiar with issues , or if they are familiar they do not them
> consider
> > significant at national level or they do not care. Either way we
> in the
> > ICT world are proactive people and instead of castigating them
> let us
> roll
> > our sleeves and work with them and make sure they understand the
> issues,
> > the significance and why they matter.
> >
> > This is an on-going programme and as indicated in the debate and we
> shall
> > have another session in July and hopefully the political scenario
> on the
> > presidential aspirants will be clearer . For now, to determine
> who to
> > invite was based on government of national unity versus the
> opposition
> as
> > broadly perceived in the national political arena. After the party
> elections
> > we shall have clarity on who to invite in the next round .
> >
> > The overall objective of the project is to ensure that we place
> the ICT
> > agenda as campaign issue and we need to show the presidential
> aspirants
> > that ICT is an national issue
> >
> >
> >
> > Muriuki Mureithi
> > Team leader
> > ICT mainstreaming in the Political Arena project
> > KICTANET
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: kictanet-bounces
> +mureithi=summitstrategies.co.ke at kictanet.or.ke
> > [mailto:kictanet-bounces
> +mureithi=summitstrategies.co.ke at kictanet.or.ke]
> On
> > Behalf Of Brian Longwe
> > Sent: 17 May 2007 13:26
> > To: mureithi at summitstrategies.co.ke
> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Holding our Leaders Accountable
> >
> > I would like to strongly echo the sentiments of Lucy as well as to
> > add my own fury to the fire.
> >
> > I was extremely upset that not only did *NONE* of the presidential
> > aspirants show up - but some of them even went as far as responding
> > to phone calls by saying "I am on the way, will be there in 20
> > minutes"...... then never turning up..... can you imagine that?
> > Treating the Kenyan ICT community like a spurned girlfriend or
> > boyfriend?
> >
> > Anyway I think that the message that has been sent by the absence of
> > every single one of the aspiring presidents was very LOUD and
> CLEAR -
> >
> > " We don't care about ICT - it doesn't factor in our vision - it is
> > unimportant to us"
> >
> > As very precisely put by someone I overheard at the meeting - "these
> > aspiring presidents probably don't even know how to spell ICT"
> >
> > We must make a loud and strong statement about his and ensure that
> > the wider Kenyan community realises the true colours of their
> > "wannabe" presidents.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > On May 17, 2007, at 12:26 PM, John Walubengo wrote:
> >
> >
> >> LK,
> >>
> >> u sound a bit disappointed. Unfortunately i didnt attend
> >> the function and would like to know who really turned up
> >> from the presidential aspirants and what they said...
> >>
> >> Michuki, any hope for the text transcript? Or Becky could
> >> give us a brief the old way in form of minutes/updates/etc?
> >> Then from there the absentees like me could contribute more
> >> intelligently on the way forward...
> >>
> >> walu.
> >>
> >> --- Lucy Kimani wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> All,
> >>>
> >>> I am just venting on the dismal performance of our
> >>> aspiring presidential
> >>> candidates, I have noticed a trend where those in
> >>> leadershipship positions
> >>> let alone those aspiring for the same confirm their
> >>> attendance to a
> >>> certain function and then not show up or best case
> >>> scenario show up 2-3
> >>> hours late. I keep asking myself why do we as Kenyans
> >>> accept this
> >>> behavior, and I am at a loss!
> >>>
> >>> Actually, my pesa nane is that we as the citizens need to
> >>> start demanding
> >>> accountability in that when one says they will attend a
> >>> function then they
> >>> should keep to their word, after all why are electing
> >>> people whose word
> >>> doesnt count for much? Additionally, most of us also
> >>> have busy work lives
> >>> and the fact that we were willing to stop what we were
> >>> doing to sit down
> >>> to hear what these aspiring candidates have to say about
> >>> ICT is a
> >>> testament to how important we feel ICT to be to the
> >>> country.
> >>>
> >>> I am one for making strong statements, and a one page ad
> >>> expressing our
> >>> displeasure and questioning why the candidates are scared
> >>> of facing a
> >>> serious group of citizens wanting to know where each of
> >>> them stands in ICT
> >>> would be in order! I am sure if it was one of those
> >>> meetings where fans
> >>> are shouting at the top of their voices, and no one is
> >>> asking any serious
> >>> questions they probably would show up, we need to start
> >>> demanding more
> >>> from our politicians!
> >>>
> >>> Just my thoughts!
> >>>
> >>> LK
> >>>
> >>>
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