[kictanet] Sasanet not working?

Tue Feb 20 19:45:48 EAT 2007

well, am not a subscriber to them - i got jittery when
their registration form had too many of what I thought were
personal questions without equivalent demonstration of how
they would secure my data...

Nway, I just checked their website and it is up and
running...so what do you mean when you say they are no
longer working?

walu.

--- Alex Gakuru <alex.gakuru at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Wouldn't you be curious to find out a very popular free
> internet-based www.sasanet.co.ke is now no longer
> working? I wonder why?
> 
> /Alex
> 
> Mike Theuri <mike.theuri at gmail.com> wrote: Alex, 
> 
> Thank you for sharing the blog on the anti-consumer
> setting in the country. The blog has very useful
> information that is not being shared with Kenyan
> consumers and it is key that consumer rights are upheld.
> Your blog out to be brought to more attention of key
> stakeholders in ICT and to consumers alike.  
> 
> Yes, the Ministry and CCK are best placed to
> authoritatively comment on such an issue. However I
> believe that what AT&T is discontinuing is the ability to
> use a "call back" number from Kenya to the US. It is very
> likely that the call back numbers which are 0800 numbers
> are no longer profitable for AT&T especially given that
> they cost as high as $3/min. Technically they are
> supposed to be cheaper to use than if one was to "call
> back" the US direct from any other country be it Kenya or
> the UK. However with AT&T's rate to call the US from
> Kenya as high as it is and with local providers beating
> their tariffs they may have opted to drop this service.
> What this might do, is it might leave AT&T US based
> customers unable to call the US using their AT&T calling
> cards for what would otherwise be exorbitant prices.  
> 
> The wording of the AT&T notice on the lack of no future
> support for calls originating from Kenya wasn't very
> clear and after some digging around it appears that it
> referred to users of AT&T who utilize call back services
> while traveling overseas, it might just be due to stiff
> competition now that VOIP has been deregulated and
> tariffs have fallen (though not low enough) and that no
> one in their right mind would be willing to pay $3+ per
> minute for a call to the US when for a extremely small
> fraction one could make the same phone call at a lower
> rate. 
> 
> Even then the tariffs in general are not fair enough for
> Kenyan consumers and it is an uphill battle to enforce
> changes when some of the largest tax payers happen to be
> communication providers. It is unthinkable that the
> government would do much to jeopardize a large and steady
> tax revenue stream to save the honorable consumer.
> Increasingly huge profits in a formerly depressed and now
> recovering economy like ours raise the question whether
> the consumer is getting a fair deal. It is akin to oil
> companies making several times over some nations GDP in
> profits and claiming that they are struggling themselves
> and offering the best prices possible. Price regulation
> in the industry is something that should be looked into
> to further to try and strike a fair balance between
> consumers needs and investors return on equity.  
> 
> Mike
> 
> On 2/18/07, Alex Gakuru <alex.gakuru at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Mike:
> 
> Although this is a consumer issue, you may notice we have
> quite some domestic wars with the prevailing
> anti-consumer setting,  http://ictconsumer.blogspot.com/
> for example.
>  
> By engaging foreign networks, I am afraid the ICT
> Consumers Association of Kenya could be considered acting
> ultra vires thus the Ministry of Information and
> Communications, CCK, and perhaps also Foreign Affairs are
> best  suited to comment. 
> 
> Would a provocative question, like "why has a private US
> telco unilaterally cut-off communication from Kenya to
> the US jeopardizing both a basic human right and the
> national outsourcing strategy" earn a quick response from
> government?     
> 
> rgds,
> 
> Alex
>  
> Mike Theuri <mike.theuri at gmail.com> wrote:  As an after
> thought, this may mean calls  dialed through this number
> which by itself is a very expensive option and which may
> reflect the effects of voip and lowered costs of
> international calls:
> 
> Kenya 0-800-2201-15 (608) 
> 
>  On 2/18/07, Mike Theuri <mike.theuri at gmail.com> wrote: 
> Does anyone know why the below might be the case ? AT&T
> printed this in small print on bills sent to customer in
> January. Considering
> that AT&T is the largest telco in the US this is a
> serious issue :
> 
> International Call Origination:  
> Effective March 1, 2007, our International Call
> Origination service will change. Current access
> numbers for calls originating internationally
> will change. Please visit   att.com/dialing-guide 
> to print the new dialing-guide for your reference;
> or call the number on your bill to order a new
> dialing guide. Calls from Kenya to US will
> no longer be supported. International to 
> international calling from St. Martin will no 
> longer be supported. Also, International
> service will be expanded to over 60 additional
> countries. To find out rates and countries where
> we provide service, please visit 
>   att.com/intl-rates.
> 
> 
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