[kictanet] Online Discussion on OFC Provisioning - Closing Ceremony& Way Forward

Thu Feb 8 10:33:38 EAT 2007

Thank you very much Walu for the excellent moderation.

We shall post a summary of the discussions by the end of the week and 
prepare a report which will capture all the inputs. This report will then 
form the basis of our discussions on 22nd of February at the Jacaranda 
hotel.
The objectives of the workshop will therefore be to:
1. validate the report
2. reconcile our various interests to shape/build consensus
Proceedings from the workshop will be submitted to P.S Bitange Ndemo for 
further action.

On another note, we shall hold a five day discussion on the Freedom of 
Information policy January 2007 that was posted recently by P.S Ndemo.
Views/suggestions etc from the discussions will be presented at the 
stakeholder meeting taking place in 20th February at the Kenya School of 
Monetary studies. You are all invited to participate in the online 
discussions and the workshop.

best regards
alice

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Walubengo" <jwalu at yahoo.com>
To: <alice at apc.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 10:02 AM
Subject: [kictanet] Online Discussion on OFC Provisioning - Closing 
Ceremony& Way Forward

>I wish to formally close the above Online discussion and
> thank all of you who spared the time and effort to scribble
> down their thoughts on this important subject.
>
> For those who prefer speech (talking) to text (writing), I
> am happy to say that we shall be holding a face-2-face,
> half-day discussion on the same topic at the Jacaranda
> Hotel on Thr 22nd Feb 2007, from 8:00a.m - 1:00p.m (lunch &
> tea inclusive i hope ;-).
>
> During this session, we shall have a draft report on the
> Online deliberations for validation and also have an
> opportunity to enhance the report through the additional
> face-2-face comments that shall arise.
>
> KICTANet has been assured that the views collected shall be
> taken by Government as a serious Stakeholder input that
> will influence the final direction International Optical
> Fiber Cable Provisioning in the country shall take.  So
> please, take out your diary (or PDA?) and spare Thrs
> half-day 22nd Feb 2007 for this discussion.
>
>
> J. Walubengo
> for KICTANet.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- John Walubengo <jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Lets hear more, particularly on the qtn --->:What are the
>> top three things, each Stakeholder (Operators,
>> Regulators,
>> Consumers and Govt) should do in order to provide a
>> win-win
>> situation for everybody in the new OFC dispensation?
>>
>> Here's my take and it is open to objections and additions
>> (remember we can disagree but still remain reconciled ;-)
>>
>> Regulator must:
>> a) prepare a new regulatory environment where they have a
>> say over International connectivity i.e. move beyond
>> providing International Gateway licenses and probably get
>> into enforcing Inter-connection (Access) issues for
>> International traffic.
>> b) must provide a new market structure i.e. move beyond
>> selling 'vertical' licenses and begin selling
>> 'horizontal'
>> licenses i.e align licensing according to new realities
>> of
>> (IP) convergence
>> c) start thinking about reviewing existing licensing and
>> the anticipated resistance this would cause from existing
>> Operators
>>
>> Operators must:
>> a) begin to strategies on which market/licence-space they
>> would wish to play in (Infrastructure, Network or
>> Applications?)
>> b)  begin to plan for innovative competition from
>> non-traditional rivals the Application Providers (e.g.
>> KTN
>> or Nation TV competing with providers for Internet TV).
>> c)  ...
>>
>> Consumers must:
>> a) Get organised more strongly in consumer assosciations
>> b) Get to engage more coherently with Regulators and
>> Operators
>> c)....
>>
>> Govt must:
>> a) Get appropriate Policies and legislation to address
>> the
>> new era
>> b) ...
>> c)...
>>
>> walu.
>>
>>
>> --- Eric Osiakwan <eric at afrispa.org> wrote:
>>
>> > This sounds like a modern day sermon......
>> >
>> > If we cant realise this then we loose the opportunity
>> to
>> > leverage the last frontier in Societal
>> > strength which is the multi-stakeholder power.
>> >
>> > Eric here
>> >
>> >
>> > ---------- Original Message
>> > ----------------------------------
>> > From: <alice at apc.org>
>> > Reply-To: Kenya ICT Action Network - KICTANet
>> > <kictanet at kictanet.or.ke>
>> > Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 09:09:30 +0300
>> >
>> > >Sounds like utopia but realisable. In this day and
>> age,
>> > no one sector can
>> > >deliver the complexities of sustainable development
>> > alone. Therefore,
>> > >partnerships between government, businesses, civil
>> > society and media (what
>> > >is referred to as multi stakeholder partnerships) have
>> > become a growing
>> > >feature world wide.  Additionally, the interactions of
>> > ICTS with development
>> > >and poverty reduction goals are so complex that a
>> range
>> > of resources and
>> > >competencies need to be brought together to create
>> > solutions to specific
>> > >challenges. One of the reasons that the UN WSIS
>> process
>> > adopted multi
>> > >stakeholder process and now others like the ITU are
>> > following.
>> > >Kenya ICt Action network is based on this philosophy
>> and
>> > one of the lessons
>> > >we have learnt is that diversity is a reality and it
>> is
>> > important to
>> > >understand different values, encourage dialogue and
>> > integrate views into
>> > >joint solutions. And I believe that with the amount of
>> > discussions, e-mail
>> > >reading, listening, etc we are all in a position to
>> > understand and reconcile
>> > >our various interests to shape/build consensus.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >alice
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >----- Original Message ----- 
>> > >From: "Michael Joseph" <MJoseph at Safaricom.co.ke>
>> > >To: <alice at apc.org>
>> > >Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 7:25 AM
>> > >Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 10 of 10: Reconciling
>> > Stakeholder Interests
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >>I think you have done a good job in summing up the
>> > objectives of the
>> > >> various participants and stakeholders.  I think all
>> > the objectives can
>> > >> and should be met if all parties understood each
>> > other's key objectives
>> > >> and operating environments (including an
>> understanding
>> > of the costs to
>> > >> achieve them). I think we have progressed a great
>> deal
>> > in the last 4
>> > >> years with operators, the regulator and the
>> Government
>> > beginning to
>> > >> understand and appreciate each other roles.
>> > >>
>> > >> To improve matters, more honest dialog with each
>> other
>> > in an environment
>> > >> where no one is superior to the other, where the
>> "big
>> > whips" are packed
>> > >> away, and hopefully a new framework in terms of the
>> > new ICT bill where
>> > >> the roles and expectations of each stakeholder is
>> > clearly spelt out.
>> > >>
>> > >> Sounds like Utopia but that that's my opinion.
>> > >>
>> > >> Regards,
>> > >>
>> > >> Michael
>> > >>
>> > >> CEO
>> > >> Safaricom Limited
>> > >>
>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > >> From:
>> > kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke at kictanet.or.ke
>> > >>
>> >
>>
> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke at kictanet.or.ke]
>> > On
>> > >> Behalf Of John Walubengo
>> > >> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 7:03 PM
>> > >> To: Michael Joseph
>> > >> Subject: [kictanet] Day 10 of 10: Reconciling
>> > Stakeholder Interests
>> > >>
>> > >> <<<I must stay that the previous theme 'Projected
>> > Impact of
>> > >> OFC on Stakeholders' has been quite turbulent. We
>> did
>> > >> recieve about 20 postings on this theme(during 4
>> > calender
>> > >> days) and it has been a challenge trying to sieve
>> > through
>> > >> them in order to create a brief and reasonable
>> account
>> > of
>> > >> the issues, proposals and predictions. In the
>> interest
>> > of
>> > >> moving forward, I would wish to introduce the next
>> > theme
>> > >> and but will provide the summary of issues in the
>> > final
>> > >> report.>>>.
>> > >>
>> > >> In general, the Operators have an obligation to
>> > maximize
>> > >> profit for their shareholders by virtue of having
>> > taken a
>> > >> risk and committed funds into a particular line of
>> > business
>> > >> (OFC included).  The Consumer on the other hand will
>> > always
>> > >> want services at the lowest cost possible (including
>> > free
>>
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