[Kictanet] Re: Duopoly by Mobile Service Providers

[Florence Etta]

Hi,
I believe Alice's is a good idea lets go for this. So when exactly can we 
have this Meeting in October I personally will be away until 12th. I guess 
what I am suggesting is for us to continue the planning of this meeting 
while taking this new angle into consideration etc etc.
Cheers,
FE
At 07:37 PM 9/22/2005 +0300, alice at apc.org wrote:
>Dear Michael
>Thank you for your response.  to meet delegation from both the Kenya ICT
>policy and Kenya ICT Action Network lists.
>We have a public forum planned for October to discuss these issues and your
>participation will be most welcome
>
>kind regards
>alice
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Michael Joseph" <MJoseph at Safaricom.co.ke>
>To: "KIPlist" <kiplist-cl at lyris.idrc.ca>
>Cc: <kictanet at kictanet.or.ke>
>Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 7:21 PM
>Subject: Re: Duopoly by Mobile Service Providers
>
>
>Whatever I may say or think, you will probably disagree with me, but the
>statements contained herein are widely inaccurate, and I am very happy and
>willing to meet a delegation of this list to clarify and clear up the
>inaccurate statements.  I take strong exception to some of what is said as
>that is neither our practice as a company nor mine as an individual.
>
>Regards
>
>Michael
>
>-----Original Message-----
>     From: "John Walubengo" <jwalubengo at kcct.ac.ke>
>     Sent: 22/09/05 12:11:11
>     To: "KIPlist" <kiplist-cl at lyris.idrc.ca>
>     Cc: "kictanet at kictanet.or.ke" <kictanet at kictanet.or.ke>
>     Subject: Re: Duopoly by Mobile Service Providers
>
>     "On 21 Sep 2005, at 22:06, Brian Longwe wrote:
>
>      I'm not taking sides here, just asking questions that I think should
>      straighten what is clearly spurios reasoning..."
>
>     Unlike Brian, I do wish I could take sides on this one...but this issue
>is too complex and
>     as outsiders, we can only make educated guesses (speculate?).
>
>     Definately, the 3rd Mobile License Saga is not moving forward as
>planned. This has created a defacto duopoly that Safaricom and Celtel
>continue to exploit with impunity (High Calling rates(airtime) for Kenyans
>when rated Internationally, Lack of Number Portability, poorly implemented
>EIR (the software that disables stolen phones) system, Unreliable Emergency
>Service Lines (equivalent to 999 services), Delayed SMS deliveries,
>Retention of Unused Credit, etc, etc, etc.
>
>     A 3rd Mobile Service Provider is likely to destroy un-written, cartel
>agreements that the current service providers are conviniently enjoying.
>However, the process for inviting the 3rd Operator has been halted in courts
>and one wonders (and speculates) on whether the delayed processing of
>resolving issue is not deliberate to perpetuate the status quo...
>
>
>     walu.
>
>
>
>
>
>     >>> <alice at apc.org> 09/22/05 11:39am >>>
>     Brian,  I think it was clear that your reference was to the conclusion
>     arrived at by the author of the article.
>     But you do bring into light certain aspects that the author left out
>which
>     is helpful in understanding the situation.
>     However, I think, it would be even more helpful if journalists could go
>the
>     extra mile to explain the mechanisms/structures of the industry being
>     reported on and allow readers to make the mental exercise of jumping
>into
>     conclusions!
>
>
>     thanks
>     alice
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: "Brian Longwe" <cto at nbi.ispkenya.com>
>     To: "KIPlist" <kiplist-cl at lyris.idrc.ca>
>     Cc: "Kenya ICT Policy - kictanet" <kictanet at kictanet.or.ke>; "KIPlist"
>     <kiplist-cl at lyris.idrc.ca>
>     Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 9:04 AM
>     Subject: Re: [Kictanet] Fw: [DigAfrica] How broke company won tender
>
>
> >
> > On 21 Sep 2005, at 22:06, Brian Longwe wrote:
> >
> >> I'm not taking sides here, just asking questions that I think should
> >> straighten what is clearly spurios reasoning...
> >
> > I don't normally reply to my own emails - but I just realised that my
> > mention of spurious reasoning yesterday might have been misconstrued
> > to be referring to the comments made by my colleagues Alice and
> > Florence. I would like to make a correction - I was not referring to
> > them but rather to the conclusion reached in the press article by the
> > author, which seem to have been based on questionable sources of
> > information.
> >
> > Apologies to all for any misunderstanding :-)
> >
> > Brian
> >
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