[Kictanet] Fw: Duopoly by Mobile Service Providers

[alice at apc.org]

FYI
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Joseph" <MJoseph at Safaricom.co.ke>
To: <alice at apc.org>
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: Duopoly by Mobile Service Providers


Thank you, I would like to be there. Please let me know the exact dates when 
you have them.

Regards

Michael

-----Original Message-----
    From: alice at apc.org
    Sent: 22/09/05 19:38:44
    To: "KIPlist" <kiplist-cl at lyris.idrc.ca>
    Cc: "kictanet at kictanet.or.ke" <kictanet at kictanet.or.ke>
    Subject: Re: Duopoly by Mobile Service Providers

    Dear Michael
    Thank you for your response.  to meet delegation from both the Kenya ICT
    policy and Kenya ICT Action Network lists.
    We have a public forum planned for October to discuss these issues and 
your
    participation will be most welcome

    kind regards
    alice


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Michael Joseph" <MJoseph at Safaricom.co.ke>
    To: "KIPlist" <kiplist-cl at lyris.idrc.ca>
    Cc: <kictanet at kictanet.or.ke>
    Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 7:21 PM
    Subject: Re: Duopoly by Mobile Service Providers


    Whatever I may say or think, you will probably disagree with me, but the
    statements contained herein are widely inaccurate, and I am very happy 
and
    willing to meet a delegation of this list to clarify and clear up the
    inaccurate statements.  I take strong exception to some of what is said 
as
    that is neither our practice as a company nor mine as an individual.

    Regards

    Michael

    -----Original Message-----
        From: "John Walubengo" <jwalubengo at kcct.ac.ke>
        Sent: 22/09/05 12:11:11
        To: "KIPlist" <kiplist-cl at lyris.idrc.ca>
        Cc: "kictanet at kictanet.or.ke" <kictanet at kictanet.or.ke>
        Subject: Re: Duopoly by Mobile Service Providers

        "On 21 Sep 2005, at 22:06, Brian Longwe wrote:

         I'm not taking sides here, just asking questions that I think 
should
         straighten what is clearly spurios reasoning..."

        Unlike Brian, I do wish I could take sides on this one...but this 
issue
    is too complex and
        as outsiders, we can only make educated guesses (speculate?).

        Definately, the 3rd Mobile License Saga is not moving forward as
    planned. This has created a defacto duopoly that Safaricom and Celtel
    continue to exploit with impunity (High Calling rates(airtime) for 
Kenyans
    when rated Internationally, Lack of Number Portability, poorly 
implemented
    EIR (the software that disables stolen phones) system, Unreliable 
Emergency
    Service Lines (equivalent to 999 services), Delayed SMS deliveries,
    Retention of Unused Credit, etc, etc, etc.

    A 3rd Mobile Service Provider is likely to destroy un-written, cartel
agreements that the current service providers are conviniently enjoying.
However, the process for inviting the 3rd Operator has been halted in courts
and one wonders (and speculates) on whether the delayed processing of
resolving issue is not deliberate to perpetuate the status quo...


    walu.





    >>> <alice at apc.org> 09/22/05 11:39am >>>
    Brian,  I think it was clear that your reference was to the conclusion
    arrived at by the author of the article.
    But you do bring into light certain aspects that the author left out
which
    is helpful in understanding the situation.
    However, I think, it would be even more helpful if journalists could go
the
    extra mile to explain the mechanisms/structures of the industry being
    reported on and allow readers to make the mental exercise of jumping
into
    conclusions!


    thanks
    alice

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Brian Longwe" <cto at nbi.ispkenya.com>
    To: "KIPlist" <kiplist-cl at lyris.idrc.ca>
    Cc: "Kenya ICT Policy - kictanet" <kictanet at kictanet.or.ke>; "KIPlist"
    <kiplist-cl at lyris.idrc.ca>
    Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 9:04 AM
    Subject: Re: [Kictanet] Fw: [DigAfrica] How broke company won tender


>
> On 21 Sep 2005, at 22:06, Brian Longwe wrote:
>
>> I'm not taking sides here, just asking questions that I think should
>> straighten what is clearly spurios reasoning...
>
> I don't normally reply to my own emails - but I just realised that my
> mention of spurious reasoning yesterday might have been misconstrued
> to be referring to the comments made by my colleagues Alice and
> Florence. I would like to make a correction - I was not referring to
> them but rather to the conclusion reached in the press article by the
> author, which seem to have been based on questionable sources of
> information.
>
> Apologies to all for any misunderstanding :-)
>
> Brian
>
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