[Kictanet] Desired Structure

Wed Aug 3 03:55:47 EAT 2005

I too second the loose structure, it makes sense and has worked very  
well in the past,
even in terms of sustainability, the various associations have  
supported each other in
the various tasks and I would suggest that if each of the groups  
provides their calender
of activities and then these are harmonised within KICTANet, there  
will be sufficient
support from all to keep KICKTANet sustainable; this will also reduce  
duplications of
resources and certainly ensure each objective is met an an even  
"mightier" way than if
each group went individually.

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On 2 Aug 2005, at 12:42, Warigia_Bowman at ksgphd.harvard.edu wrote:

> I agree completely with Harry and Waudo
>
> The looser the structure the better.
>
> But, I hope other people participate in this discussion too, so  
> that it is democratic.
>
> Yours, warigia
>
> I support Harry's view that the "loose" structure
> of KICTANET is the key to its success. Please keep it this way.
>
> Waudo Siganga
>
> At 11:02 AM 8/2/2005, Harry Hare wrote:
> >Hello Colleagues,
> >
> >Greetings from Dar es Salaam. Allow me to add my few cents to this
> >discussion. Structured/Institutionalization is always good and the  
> "right"
> >way of doing things. But this brings on board all language that  
> goes with
> >any institution including overheads and bureaucracy and sometimes  
> even
> >personalization. KICTANet has done well so far with its fluid  
> structure and
> >probably that is what it's meant to be ...fluid. I would dare say  
> that the
> >success of KICTANet today is because of its informal structure/ 
> nature which
> >provides a platform for all and sundry. It is through KICTANet  
> that we saw
> >the industry coming together as one!
> >
> >The moment you institutionalize it, then it could start looking like
> >competition (for resources and attention) to some of the already  
> existing
> >NGOs, looses its subscriptions, looses its fluidity and... I know  
> that
> >volunteerism is not sustainable in the long run so probably we  
> should be
> >looking for a cross-breed structure that will maintain the  
> fluidity and also
> >bring in some form of order (for lack of a better word).
> >
> >Harry
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: bounce-kiplist-cl-98713 at lyris.idrc.ca
> >[mailto:bounce-kiplist-cl-98713 at lyris.idrc.ca] On Behalf Of  
> warigia bowman
> >Sent: 01 August 2005 16:52
> >To: KIPlist
> >Subject: Re: [Kictanet] Desired Structure
> >
> >Dear all
> >
> >Florence and Waudo have given very helpful and thoughtful comments.
> >
> >Perhaps we need to have a two hour meeting or even more than one  
> meeting to
> >discuss this. Perhaps people can bring or email concrete  
> proposals, even 1/2
> >
> >page brief written suggestions?
> >
> >Issues I think people should worry about or reflect on include
> >
> >a) long term sustainability b) cost and what sources of funding  
> are c) the
> >proliferation of NGOs in Africa and whether they serve useful  
> purposes (.i.e
> >
> >calcification of NGO sector) d) whether KICTAnet should be purpose  
> driven
> >and what structure suits that goal best e) whether hierarchy  
> really helps us
> >
> >fulfil our goals or whether it just provides salaries and prestige f)
> >whether having a paid secretariat diverts money from project based
> >endeavors?
> >
> >I see three possible models. I assume others have others in mind.
> >
> >Model 1) Traditional NGO with hierarchichal structure and salaried  
> formal
> >secretariat. Example, ATPS, Afri Afya etc.
> >Model 2) Totally voluntary network with flat structure, no  
> salaries and no
> >formal hierarchy. Example  Kictanet now.
> >Model 3) Mix the above forms, have very small staff, perhaps one  
> or two
> >secretaries, but retain predominantly voluntary nature with minimal
> >hierarchy and flat structure.
> >
> >In my view, the current structure works nicely for now. However,  
> there are
> >some things a staffer could do, like a chronology of events and  
> organizing
> >meetings. Other projects can be sorted out on a project basis.  
> Perhaps
> >others can propose other models? Also structures can be used for a  
> few
> >months (6) and then reevaluated for feasibility. M&E anyone?
> >
> >I hope this is not presumptuous but is instead helpful.
> >
> >Yours, Rigia
> >
> > >From: Lizette Kraft
> > >Reply-To: "KIPlist"
> > >To: "KIPlist"
> > >Subject: Re: [Kictanet] Desired Structure
> > >Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 16:25:17 +0300
> > >
> > >Well Said Waudo. I think the motto sounds great and would be  
> something we
> > >all can strive at.
> > >
> > >Lizette
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >At / À 11:22 AM 7/30/2005, Waudo Siganga wrote / a écrit:
> > >>Thank you Florence. Please record me as
> > >>supporting the Kictanet objectives and structure.
> > >>Hope this will lead to the attainment of two
> > >>objectives that bother me: (1) transparency in
> > >>the individual and combined ICT advocacy
> > >>processes by stakeholders (i.e I sometimes become
> > >>aware of advocacy processes that are carrying out
> > >>under a cloud of "siri kali". It is like some
> > >>advocacy programmes almost qualify for "copyright" status).
> > >>(2) Facilitation of Inclusivity. I have come
> > >>across cases where some believe that they are
> > >>"the correct ones" carrying out some form of
> > >>advocacy and others who may be offering
> > >>"competition" should be excluded, sometimes by simply being  
> kept in the
> > >>dark.
> > >>
> > >>I have always maintained that running any
> > >>association, grouping, or other advocacy
> > >>structure is a very difficult job that requires
> > >>personal sacrifice and any colleagues who offer
> > >>their services should be recognized accordingly.
> > >>
> > >>"Working together to achieve" much should be our motto.
> > >>
> > >>Kind Regards
> > >>Waudo Siganga
> > >>Chairman
> > >>Computer Society of Kenya
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>At 05:41 PM 7/29/2005, Florence Etta wrote:
> > >> >  Hi all,
> > >> >Hi all,
> > >> >At the KICTANET meeting held today it was agreed
> > >> >that we start a discussion in respect of the structure  
> desired for
> > >>KICTANet.
> > >> >This is to serve as a welcome to this discussion
> > >> >which will last as long as it is reasonably
> > >> >clear what might be done but not exceeding 2 weeks.
> > >> >
> > >> >The question for today is this: Are the
> > >> >objectives stated below ok? Please suggest additions and or  
> deletions.
> > >> >
> > >> >KICTANET is a loose network of organisations
> > >> >involved with ICTs or share common/similar ICT
> > >> >goals in Kenya to work together to achieve the
> > >> >national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
> > >> >  Objectives of the Kenya ICT Action Network will be:
> > >> >·       Engagement in mutually supportive activities for  
> lasting change
> > >> >·       Facilitation of effective dissemination
> > >> >of the ICT policy and implementation processes
> > >> >·       Facilitation of effective implementation of the ICT  
> policy
> > >> >         Provision of access to varied and multiple resources/ 
> skills
> > >> >·       Pooling of limited resources for the common goal and  
> common good
> > >> >·       Linking of organisations and networks
> > >> >working at the community level to those
> > >> >specialised and working in the broader political space
> > >> >
> > >> >We hope that by forming this loose network, we
> > >> >shall avoid multiplicity and unhealthy
> > >> >competition or mutual suspicion while
> > >> >encouraging synergies for activities as well as
> > >> >initiatives by providing a platform for
> > >> >collaboration among organisations and networks
> > >> >interested in the fast developing ICT sector in Kenya.
> > >> >  Cheers,
> > >> >FE
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
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