[kictanet] Local content

Wed Jul 18 12:19:20 EAT 2012

when it comes to what is local i'd say it depends.

- where is the content hosted. From 'a guy that designs networks'
perspective, this has the biggest impact. So google and Akamai by caching
traffic at a local exchange point is local, nation media's site hosted
abroad is not local by this definition. This has the biggest impact on cost
and éye ball' perception of a good service mainly due to the latency
imposed on the traffic by long round trips.

- Content created for and by local people. this immediately puts the nation
media content from above in the 'local content' category. I however find
this too broad. Kenyan videos on you tube are local, but google can
physically host them anywhere in the world. obviously it makes sense to
host content as close to its consumers as possible. So nation might not see
sense in hosting their site here if their biggest online consumers are in
North america. but the ;content as far as we're concenrned is still local.

other things impact the definitions eg if you have local content but your
ISP has a DNS service hosted abroad, then in my books they are doing
something wrong and it affects localization. the same could be said of
someone offering offshore billing services, or using salesforce but they
are a kenyan company. is the content they put in there local? by whose
definition?

gitau

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Tomslin Samme-Nlar
<s.tomsleen at gmail.com>wrote:

> Thanks Jaco.
>
> That'll help some of us who are trying to understand what local content
> really means.
>
>
> Tomslin
> www.onelifeconsult.com
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Du Toit, Jaco <j.dutoit at unesco.org>wrote:
>
>> Dear colleagues,
>>
>> You might be interested in a recent publication on the  Relationship
>> between Local Content, Internet Development and Access Prices" that was
>> published by  ISOC, OECD and UNESCO, see
>> www.unesco.org/new/fileadmin/MULTIMEDIA/.../local_content_study.pdf.
>>  The first findings of the research were presented at the sixth annual
>> meeting of the Internet Governance Forum (IGF) that was held here in
>> Nairobi, Kenya on 27-30 September 2011.  There is also a case study on Kenya
>>
>> Jaco
>>
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+j.dutoit=
>> unesco.org at lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Ali Hussein
>> Sent: Wednesday, 18 July, 2012 10:50 AM
>> To: Du Toit, Jaco
>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Local content
>>
>> Solomon
>>
>> Local content is what is relevant to a local audience. In this case
>> Kenya. In my humble opinion if you write about Jay Z and you are a Kenyan
>> that doesn't pass muster as local content.
>>
>> As for the domain extension - that is just where you host the content. So
>> that content on Jay Z if it goes on a site with the domain hiphop.co.kethat doesn't qualify as local content...
>>
>> For more context. Yawe's  quadrantshift.co.ke is a good example of
>> taking a global phenomenon (in this case Richdad PoorDad) and applying it
>> to a local context. Well done Yawe.
>>
>> I hope I have helped.
>>
>> Ali Hussein
>>
>> +254 773/713 601113
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone®
>>
>> On Jul 18, 2012, at 10:37 AM, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <solo.mburu at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > From what Yawe has posted (although I've not dissected through the
>> > links by Yawe), is local content having a .ke domain or having
>> > information related to our local diversities? For example, having
>> > content that supports our communities through online presence? Someone
>> > educate me on this 'illiteracy'.
>> >
>> > On 18/07/2012, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> >> Hi All,
>> >>
>> >> You and I are responsible for generating local content, and since I
>> >> am not one to just participate in rhetoric here is my contribution to
>> >> local content
>> >>
>> >> www.quadrantshift.co.ke
>> >> www.live.mystocks.co.ke
>> >> www.youtube.com/coachyawe
>> >> www.propertykenya.com
>> >> www.interiors.co.ke
>> >> http://www.360views.quadrantshift.co.ke/  (work in progress)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> What is your contribution to local content?
>> >>
>> >> Robert Yawe
>> >> KAY System Technologies Ltd
>> >> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>> >> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>> >> Kenya
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ________________________________
>> >> From: Warigia Bowman <warigia at gmail.com>
>> >> To: robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
>> >> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, 17 July 2012, 18:56
>> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Insufficient resources, training mar Sh320m
>> >> digital villages plan
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Dear Hussein
>> >>
>> >> I was there too, and you did not miss part of the answer because
>> >> there is no answer. The sad fact is that we have not yet implemented
>> >> our universal access fund, although Rwanda and Uganda have. Not only
>> >> are we not taxing operators to promote universal access, we are
>> >> subsidizing them, and what do we have to show for it?
>> >>
>> >> Local content is great, but how do we encourage its production?  It
>> >> will take access, training, and support. It is a good idea, but we
>> >> need a specific detailed plan.
>> >>
>> >> PS Ndemo is the best PS in Kenya, but he can't do everything by
>> >> himself. We still need to hold the (entire) government, and
>> >> operators, accountable for ensuring universal access. I want to hear
>> >> more about what Ndemo has to say about NOFBI.
>> >>
>> >> yours, Warigia
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Crystal
>> >>>
>> >>> At today's EAIGF I raised the issue of Universal Access and the
>> >>> linkages that may be created with the Pasha Centres.
>> >>>
>> >>> The Good Doctor (Ndemo) was very forthcoming in elaborating on this
>> >>> point and raised another issue that we all must address. The issue
>> >>> of content.Local Content.
>> >>>
>> >>> In my humble opinion there must be a mix of private and public
>> >>> partnership for this noble project to work. As much as I am a
>> >>> business person and driven by the profit motive we must also
>> >>> appreciate at all times the role Government and NGOs play.
>> >>>
>> >>> On the issue of the Universal Access Fund I wasnt really satisfied
>> >>> with the answer I got from Dr.Ndemo..Unless I missed a part of the
>> answer?
>> >>>
>> >>> Ali Hussein
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Crystal Watley Kigoni
>> >>> <crystal at voicesofafrica.org> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> It is concerning that this has been a topic of discussion since 2010
>> >>> and no resolution has come.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If these are loans that have been taken from Family Bank, a private
>> >>>> institution, and the government has been given World Bank funds to
>> >>>> complete it, why are the digital village operators still being
>> >>>> given the entire loan debt? Are they not providing a public service?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Secondly, if those selected for the enterprise are not able to
>> >>>> repay their debts we are creating failing rather than successful
>> >>>> ventures. Something should be done immediately to support those
>> >>>> unable to raise the local capital.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Lastly, the CCK should be vocal in insuring these facilities are
>> >>>> available and functioning for the utilization by the rural
>> population.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Otherwise, we stand the risk of rural connectivity becoming a long
>> >>>> running promise which is never fulfilled. A sad state of affairs.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 4:16 AM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Warigia
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Better still how about CCK and ICT Board use opendata to map this
>> out?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Still..I find it abit disconcerting that CCK has been awfully
>> >>>>> quiet on the issue of Universal Access...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Anyone at CCK?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Regards
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Ali Hussein
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Warigia Bowman
>> >>>>> <warigia at gmail.com>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> It would be nice to see an accounting of the Pasha funds. I would
>> >>>>> also like to see which pashas are getting what, and see a map of
>> >>>>> pashas established, funded, and proposed, but not yet funded. That
>> >>>>> being said, I can make us that map, if I can extract the data out
>> >>>>> of the relevant players.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Yours, Rigia
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Grace & all
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> During the online discussions that preceded the Kenya IGF we
>> >>>>>>> raised the issue of Transparency in the allocation and usage of
>> >>>>>>> funds on Universal Access by the CCK.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Having read the story on the challenges facing Pasha Centres is
>> >>>>>>> there a case for Partnership between CCK and the ICT Board? Or
>> >>>>>>> am I being naive?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Ali Hussein
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> +254 773/713 601113
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone®
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Jul 16, 2012, at 10:47 PM, Grace Githaiga
>> >>>>>>> <ggithaiga at hotmail.com>
>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/-/1006/1455772/-/item/1/-/
>> >>>>>>> 68vsrnz/-/index.html
>> >>>>>>>
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