[kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into KICTAnet 2.0

Catherine Adeya elizaslider at yahoo.com
Fri Apr 13 20:51:21 EAT 2012


Gilda,

That is Scenario A. I suspect there are about 3 more. Let me suggest Scenario B. Have you ever thought about the lurkers who may want to comment but cannot due to institutional/organizational affiliation, whereby they do not want personal opinion to be misconstrued as the position of the organization where they work? However, they do benefit from the rich discussions. I know many.


Just a thought,
Nyaki



________________________________
 From: Gilda Odera <godera at skyweb.co.ke>
To: elizaslider at yahoo.com 
Cc: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke 
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into KICTAnet 2.0
 

  
Grace,
 
I think it is a cultural thing here. Many people 
would rather write directly to you during a debate, as you say below, 
rather than voice their opinion openly. I am thinking Kenyans are still 
very shy and scared of being seen to "step on another's toes"- just in case 
their comment may be going against someone's opinion. Many would rather 
hide and comment quietly to the person next to them or the person they are close 
to.
I imagine that is why there are still so many 
things that remain unchanged in the country that could be changed 
if people came out and voiced their opinions. But the few who 
write must never feel discouraged as their voices are still being heard and they 
are impacting on so many. It takes a few people to bring about 
change.  
My thoughts. 
 
Regards,
 
Gilda
  
----- Original Message ----- 
>From: Grace  Githaiga 
>To: godera at skyweb.co.ke 
>Cc: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke 
>Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 3:36 
PM
>Subject: RE: [kictanet] Kictanet alive..  kickin, or kicked into KICTAnet 2.0
>
>
>
>Spot on Gilda. However, it may be useful to hear from some 
  lurkers as to why they are not active participants of the forum (there is not 
  so much from the sisters :)). Maybe there is something that can be done to 
  allow for more participation? I have for example received 
  comments off-list when I have moderated debates, and my question to 
  those listers is that it would be nice for them to raise the very good 
  comments here on this forum. Again, the aim is to strengthen the forum and 
  have it continue to remain relevant. 
>
>
>On another note, I have seen some of our discussions here quoted  authoritatively on mainstream media, as well as on social media. 
>
>
>Ben Akoh, we look forward to reading the findings of your  research. 
>
>
>Lets keep this debate live! It is very useful.
>
>
>Rgds
>GG 
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>If 
  you have the strength to survive, you have the power to succeed. Life is all 
  about choices we make depending upon the situation we are in. Go forth and 
  rule the World!
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From: godera at skyweb.co.ke
>Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 14:12:58 +0300
>Subject: 
  Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into KICTAnet 2.0
>CC: 
  kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com
>
> 
>Long live Kictanet- as far as I am concerned.
> 
>Listers,
> 
>I think we need to remember that just like in any other forum, there are  always the very few who engage in discussions while most do the  listening. That is typical human behaviour, and it is therefore not odd  nor is Kictanet dying because not all subscribed listers are actively  participating.
>Personally, I am quite happy with the forum.  And there has been so  much to learn and listen to in the various debates- very useful.
> 
>Regards,
> 
>Gilda Odera
>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: Walubengo J 
>>To: godera at skyweb.co.ke 
>>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy  Discussions 
>>Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 12:04  PM
>>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kictanet  alive.. kickin, or kicked into KICTAnet 2.0
>>
>>
>>Ben
>>
>>This is a powerful testimony.  I do 
          also know of a PhD student whose core dataset is the KICTAnet 
          archives.   And others who got jobs/scholarships arising 
          from KICTAnet posts.  I think these are some of the stories that 
          we want to hear from the "horses" mouth...
>>
>>However, on the 
          flip-side, I think we should also welcome the negative experiences - 
          or challenges as it were - so that we can improve going 
          forward.
>>
>>walu.
>>nb: ave taken the liberty to tweak the 
          subject to include KICTAnet 2.0
>>
>>--- On Fri, 4/13/12, Ben  Akoh <me at benakoh.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>From: 
            Ben Akoh <me at benakoh.com>
>>>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kictanet 
            alive.. kickin, or kicked into the dustbin...!
>>>To: 
            jwalu at yahoo.com
>>>Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" 
            <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>>Date: Friday, April 13, 
            2012, 2:17 AM
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi All,
>>>
>>>My name is Ben Akoh and I am 
            one of many lurkers on this list, and on many
>>>others. I am not 
            Kenyan, I have visited the country several times, I will
>>>be 
            visiting it in the next month, I love it, its people, and have 
            very
>>>good friends there.
>>>
>>>I participated in one of the 
            earlier public forums that helped to shape
>>>Kictanet and that fed 
            into the numerous fiber initiatives to which you and
>>>most of us 
            now enjoy: directly when we visit the country, and 
            indirectly
>>>when we interact with good people like yourselves who 
            continue to pave the
>>>way for how public consultation can shape 
            future growth and development.
>>>
>>>My comments are along three 
            lines:
>>>
>>>1. The benefits of lurkers: Being a lurker is not 
            necessary a bad thing.
>>>Some of us continue to benefit from this 
            list and learn good practices
>>>that inform public policy in many 
            other areas. For instance, the Kictanet
>>>model is replicated 
            across several national discussion lists in West
>>>Africa and have 
            been suggested as a useful model for public consultation
>>>on 
            policy issues. Lurkers benefit through propagate the good 
            dialogues
>>>that emanate from this group in other forums beyond 
            yours. See this as
>>>Kenya's export to the knowledge and 
            information economy.
>>>
>>>2. Questioning is good: Seeking ways 
            through which this forum would become
>>>more relevant is also not 
            necessarily a bad thing. Questioning leads to
>>>improvement. The 
            day that every member of this group thinks that the list
>>>has 
            arrived (group think), is the day it begins to slowly die a 
            death.
>>>Thus, a constant review, as someone mentioned, against 
            Kictanet's initial
>>>objectives is a good starting point; 
            documenting its progress over the
>>>years through careful research 
            (as another person mentioned) is also
>>>important. But significant 
            consideration should be given to the  medium of
>>>delivery and 
            how this is relevant to the context of the times. "The medium
>>>is 
            the message" (Marshall McLuhan). The medium should thus respond to 
            the
>>>demands of the time. Considerations should be given to those 
            for whom
>>>policy is deliberated but who do not have access to 
            deliberate in its
>>>present form.
>>>
>>>3. Kicktanet is one of 
            several model that works: I am currently finalizing
>>>a toolkit 
            (ebook and wiki) of several models that have worked 
            for
>>>generating evidence and for seeking consent of those whom 
            policy will
>>>affect using case studies of good practice models 
            implemented  across the
>>>world. Kictanet and this discussion 
            list is featured prominently as one of
>>>them. I hope to share the 
            outcome of this research once it has been
>>>published.
>>>
>>>In 
            sum, all these go to say that:
>>>
>>>1. The list is useful to both 
            lurkers and active members.
>>>2. Its influence transcends Kenya and 
            contributes to shaping policy and
>>>policy consultation beyond its 
            borders.
>>>3. The medium should respond to the dynamic context of 
            communication
>>>technologies, and cater to the local context as 
            well as the growing needs
>>>of its audience - present and future. 
            It should therefore be shaped
>>>accordingly.
>>>
>>>My two 
            bob.
>>>
>>>Ben
>>>A lurker.
>>>
>>>
>>>On Thu, April 12, 2012 8:59 
            am, Evans Ikua wrote:
>>>> Now that we have to weigh in, I think 
            this is an important list that it
>>>> serves its purposes well. 
            If it falls silent for some time, then it means
>>>> that 
            everyone is happy, which is not a bad thing. When its active, 
            it
>>>> means
>>>> that people have issues, and they have a 
            good place and forum to air their
>>>> concerns and opinion 
            relating to the industry.
>>>>
>>>> As for the lurkers, they 
            are also good to have. As someone said, one will
>>>> always 
            speak out when their area of interest is mentioned and they have 
            an
>>>> opinion to share.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
            Evans
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Harry Delano 
            <harry at comtelsys.co.ke>
>>>> 
            wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Now we talking. Please if you happen to 
            be on this list, but presently
>>>>> on
>>>>> 
            “read-only-mode” ( a new phrase I have 
            learnt),****
>>>>>
>>>>> please realize you owe it to 
            this noble forum, started by noble people,
>>>>> with noble 
            ideas at least in a way to leave some****
>>>>>
>>>>> 
            mark…****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> So 
            can we ensure that this forum carries the flag up higher and make 
            a
>>>>> mark in this land and beyond that we can believe 
            ****
>>>>>
>>>>> in. Have looked around, do not see any 
            other forum with such
>>>>> broad/diverse
>>>>> 
            membership.****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** 
            **
>>>>>
>>>>> Let’s keep the ideas coming 
            in..****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> 
            Harry****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> 
            *From:* kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>>>>> 
            [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke]  *On
>>>>> Behalf Of *Harry Hare
>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 
            April 12, 2012 4:17 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> *To:* harry at comtelsys.co.ke
>>>>> *Cc:* KICTAnet 
            ICT Policy Discussions
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] 
            Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into the
>>>>> 
            dustbin...!****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** 
            **
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey all, there is a strategy document 
            floating somewhere. I think this
>>>>> could be a good place 
            to start – see what has been achieved, what fell
>>>>> 
            by
>>>>> the way side, identify what is still relevant, plug 
            in new ideas and
>>>>> strengthen the network. KICTANet should 
            never be allowed to "kick".****
>>>>>
>>>>>  
            ****
>>>>>
>>>>> Harry Hare****
>>>>>
>>>>> 
            ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> Director****
>>>>>
>>>>> 
            African eDevelopment Resource Centre****
>>>>>
>>>>> PO 
            Box 49475 00100****
>>>>>
>>>>> Nairobi, 
            Kenya****
>>>>>
>>>>> Tel +254 20 
            4041646****
>>>>>
>>>>> Cel +254 725 
            650044****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> ** 
            **
>>>>>
>>>>> *From: *Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe at gmail.com>
>>>>> *Date: *Thu, 12 
            Apr 2012 15:57:45 +0300
>>>>> *To: *Harry Hare <harry at africanedevelopment.org>
>>>>> *Cc: 
            *KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>>>> 
            *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into 
            the
>>>>> dustbin...!****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** 
            **
>>>>>
>>>>> If we go back to early discussions about 
            the multi-stakeholder network
>>>>> known as KICTAnet I recall 
            there being a distinction between the mailing
>>>>> list 
            participants, and those stakeholders who would actively engage 
            in
>>>>> KICTAnet "activities".****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** 
            **
>>>>>
>>>>> My take is that since there have been no 
            "activities" as such - the
>>>>> feeling is that KICTAnet has 
            "kicked" to borrow a phrase from
>>>>> 
            @Harry.****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> I 
            remember there used to be monthly face-to-face meetings which 
            followed
>>>>> a
>>>>> particular topic or theme of 
            interest and served as an opportunity for
>>>>> participants 
            from the various networks to meet within the context of 
            the
>>>>> "network of networks". At the time there was program 
            funding from donor
>>>>> to
>>>>> cover costs of those 
            meetings, this has presumably, run out. Which leads
>>>>> 
            me
>>>>> to ask, can we mobilise funds locally? At least for 
            these gatherings? As
>>>>> they will give a greater element of 
            traction to the organization while
>>>>> ensuring that it 
            continues to remain relevant within the sector.
>>>>> 
            Especially
>>>>> as the melting pot for policy 
            debate.****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> 
            Best regards,****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** 
            **
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** 
            **
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 3:41 PM, 
            Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com>
>>>>> 
            wrote:****
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe,
>>>>>
>>>>> 
            Currently listed number is 690 members from diverse backgrounds 
            of
>>>>> Media,
>>>>> Academia, Govt, Regulator, 
            Telcos(fixed, mobile, wireless).  But as you
>>>>> noted 
            not everyone is active -80% are often in read-only mode.  That 
            is
>>>>> one
>>>>> reason I thought we needed new 
            thinking and new approaches...
>>>>>
>>>>> 
            walu.
>>>>>
>>>>> --- On *Thu, 4/12/12, Joseph Mucheru 
            <mucheru at google.com>*  wrote:****
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Joseph Mucheru 
            <mucheru at google.com>****
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 
            Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into 
            the
>>>>> dustbin...!
>>>>> To: jwalu at yahoo.com
>>>>> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT 
            Policy Discussions"
>>>>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>****
>>>>>
>>>>> 
            Date: Thursday, April 12, 2012, 2:53 PM****
>>>>>
>>>>> 
            ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> I am certainly above 35 and enjoy not 
            only records but also the latest
>>>>> collaboration 
            technologies "Google
>>>>> Hangouts<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN38vHZjWXw>"
>>>>> 
            I agree that we need to review our aim and strategies but we need 
            to
>>>>> have a
>>>>> representative forum that allows 
            for that to take place. @Brian you know
>>>>> many participant 
            on this list are in read only mode.****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** 
            **
>>>>>
>>>>> @Walu/@Washington - can you give us an 
            idea of the number of people
>>>>> actively subscribed to the 
            list? Not the names but the number. This will
>>>>> 
            be
>>>>> a good place to start. Dealing with facts and not 
            guess work.****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** 
            **
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** 
            **
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** 
            **
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Solomon 
            Mbũrũ Kamau
>>>>> <solo.mburu at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=solo.mburu@gmail.com>>
>>>>> 
            wrote:****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> On 
            12 April 2012 14:26, robert yawe
>>>>> <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk<http://mc/compose?to=robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>>
>>>>> 
            wrote:****
>>>>>
>>>>> 
            Harry,****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> We 
            are ageing, email is loosing is lustre and the new generation 
            hate
>>>>> records and prefer platforms like twitter and 
            facebook.****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> 
            The responsibility for keeping the forum active remains with those 
            over
>>>>> 35
>>>>> year old who unfortunately are 
            trying to fit in with the younger
>>>>> crowd.***
>>>>> 
            *
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> uuummmmm is 
            there a way out of this 
            loop.^C****
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm below 35, but 
            enjoy keeping records, in addition to facebook and
>>>>> 
            twitter
>>>>>  ****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** 
            **
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards 
            ****
>>>>>
>>>>>  ****
>>>>>
>>>>> 
            Robert Yawe
>>>>> KAY System Technologies Ltd
>>>>> 
            Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>>>>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 
            00200
>>>>> Kenya****
>>>>>
>>>>> Tel: +254722511225begin_of_the_skype_highlighting            +254722511225      end_of_the_skype_highlighting, +254202010696begin_of_the_skype_highlighting            +254202010696      end_of_the_skype_highlighting****
>>>>> 
            ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Harry 
            Delano
>>>>> <harry at comtelsys.co.ke<http://mc/compose?to=harry@comtelsys.co.ke>
>>>>> 
            >
>>>>> *To:* robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
>>>>> <http://mc/compose?to=robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>
>>>>> 
            ****
>>>>>
>>>>> *Cc:* 'KICTAnet ICT Policy 
            Discussions'
>>>>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke<http://mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>>
>>>>> 
            ****
>>>>>
>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 12 April 2012, 
            13:55****
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: 
            [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into the
>>>>> 
            dustbin...!****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** 
            **
>>>>>
>>>>> Ara..!****
>>>>>
>>>>>  
            ****
>>>>>
>>>>> Not many people seriously want to 
            rejuvenate this forum, as per
>>>>> Brian/Walubengo’s 
            suggestion…?****
>>>>>
>>>>>  
            ****
>>>>>
>>>>> Cannot imagine the forum becoming a 
            good case study one day for some
>>>>> thesis student. Whose 
            research titles among others:-****
>>>>>
>>>>> ·  
                   “How-to-kill a good forum, kick it 
            into the dustbin and
>>>>> leave
>>>>> it for the dead” 
            ****
>>>>>
>>>>> ·      
               “The rise and rise, and fall and fall of a myriad 
            of many
>>>>> ICT
>>>>> forums in Kenya, the major one 
            being….****
>>>>>
>>>>> ·      
               “How-not-to build structural resilience and offer 
            strategic
>>>>> leadership”. Why the big forum went M.I.A, and 
            petered out..****
>>>>>
>>>>> ·      
               And the final one perhaps, “ Do not repeat the 
            mistakes
>>>>> listed
>>>>> above, time for a 
            RESET..”!****
>>>>>
>>>>>  
            ****
>>>>>
>>>>> Certainly, unless otherwise – we might 
            be headed for such a case
>>>>> study.
>>>>> Not sure if 
            I should patent the titles, just in 
            case..!****
>>>>>
>>>>>  
            ****
>>>>>
>>>>> Harry****
>>>>>
>>>>>  
            ****
>>>>>
>>>>>  ****
>>>>>
>>>>> 
            *From:*
>>>>> kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke<http://mc/compose?to=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke>[mailto:
>>>>> 
            kictanet-bounces+harry <http://mc/compose?to=kictanet-bounces%2Bharry>=
>>>>> comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke<http://mc/compose?to=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke>]
>>>>> 
            *On Behalf Of *Brian Munyao Longwe
>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 
            April 12, 2012 12:50 AM
>>>>> *To:* harry at comtelsys.co.ke <http://mc/compose?to=harry@comtelsys.co.ke>
>>>>> 
            *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: 
            [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into the
>>>>> 
            dustbin...!****
>>>>>
>>>>>  
            ****
>>>>>
>>>>> I think Walu is on the right track. 
            Every organisation for-profit or
>>>>> not,
>>>>> has to 
            reassess it's strategy, relevance, business direction and 
            thrust
>>>>> periodically or risk falling into the 
            shadows.****
>>>>>
>>>>>  
            ****
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it time for KICTAnet to do 
            so?****
>>>>>
>>>>>  ****
>>>>>
>>>>> 
            As one of the founders and a trustee I think that the time has 
            come.****
>>>>>
>>>>>  ****
>>>>>
>>>>> 
            My 2 shillings,****
>>>>>
>>>>>  
            ****
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian****
>>>>>
>>>>> On 
            Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Walubengo J
>>>>> <jwalu at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=jwalu@yahoo.com>>
>>>>> 
            wrote:****
>>>>>
>>>>> @Wash,
>>>>>
>>>>> 
            Maybe Delano is insinuating something. Perhaps KICTAnet needs 
            to
>>>>> re-juvinate
>>>>> and re-energize. Bring in new 
            blood and thinking. What do we want from
>>>>> KICTAnet, 8yrs 
            later? What management structures, membership 
            structures,
>>>>> operational, financial structures do we want 
            to see going forward?
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps a 
            brainstorming face2face session is due. I for one have 
            been
>>>>> the
>>>>> moderator since inception and maybe 
            someone else can do a better job and
>>>>> we
>>>>> just 
            have not asked them to come forth. Think about it - I could 
            have
>>>>> run
>>>>> out of ideas or some younger 
            dot.commer <http://dot.com> may just be
>>>>> sitting 
            on better ways of moderation that I have never 
            imagined...
>>>>>
>>>>> just my 
            2pings.
>>>>>
>>>>> walu.
>>>>>
>>>>> --- On 
            *Wed, 4/11/12, Odhiambo Washington
>>>>> <odhiambo at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=odhiambo@gmail.com>
>>>>> 
            >* wrote:****
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Odhiambo 
            Washington
>>>>> <odhiambo at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=odhiambo@gmail.com>
>>>>> 
            >
>>>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or 
            kicked into the
>>>>> dustbin...!
>>>>> To: jwalu at yahoo.com <http://mc/compose?to=jwalu@yahoo.com>
>>>>> 
            Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"
>>>>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke<http://mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>>>> 
            >
>>>>> Date: Wednesday, April 11, 2012, 3:50 
            PM****
>>>>>
>>>>>  
            ****
>>>>>
>>>>>  ****
>>>>>
>>>>> On 
            Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 14:59, Harry Delano
>>>>> <harry at comtelsys.co.ke<http://mc/compose?to=harry@comtelsys.co.ke>>
>>>>> 
            wrote:****
>>>>>
>>>>> I’m not sure which is which, 
            until I see some response on whether we
>>>>> 
            might
>>>>> just as well happen to be drifting along 
            rudderless…!!****
>>>>>
>>>>>  
            ****
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You mean the post-Easter 
            stupor, or??
>>>>>  
            ****
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Best 
            regards,
>>>>> Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
>>>>> 
            Nairobi,KE
>>>>> +254733744121/+254722743223begin_of_the_skype_highlighting            +254722743223      end_of_the_skype_highlighting
>>>>> 
            _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
>>>>> I can't 
            hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.
>>>>> [image: 
            cid:image001.png at 01CD18CB.53049790]Please consider the
>>>>> 
            environment before printing this email. 
            ****
>>>>>
>>>>>  ****
>>>>>
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