[kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into the dustbin...!

Thu Apr 12 15:07:25 EAT 2012

The current list membership count is 692. This does not include even a
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>From my experience being on this list, many participants are, as Mucheru
says, on "read only mode".

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 14:53, Joseph Mucheru <mucheru at google.com> wrote:

> I am certainly above 35 and enjoy not only records but also the latest
> collaboration technologies "Google Hangouts<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN38vHZjWXw>"
> I agree that we need to review our aim and strategies but we need to have a
> representative forum that allows for that to take place. @Brian you know
> many participant on this list are in read only mode.
>
> @Walu/@Washington - can you give us an idea of the number of people
> actively subscribed to the list? Not the names but the number. This will be
> a good place to start. Dealing with facts and not guess work.
>
> Thanks
>
> Joe
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <solo.mburu at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 12 April 2012 14:26, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Harry,
>>>
>>> We are ageing, email is loosing is lustre and the new generation hate
>>> records and prefer platforms like twitter and facebook.
>>>
>>> The responsibility for keeping the forum active remains with those over
>>> 35 year old who unfortunately are trying to fit in with the younger crowd.
>>>
>>> uuummmmm is there a way out of this loop.^C
>>>
>>
>> I'm below 35, but enjoy keeping records, in addition to facebook and
>> twitter
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Robert Yawe
>>> KAY System Technologies Ltd
>>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>>> Kenya
>>>
>>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>>>   ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Harry Delano <harry at comtelsys.co.ke>
>>> *To:* robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
>>> *Cc:* 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>>  *Sent:* Thursday, 12 April 2012, 13:55
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into the
>>> dustbin...!
>>>
>>> Ara..!
>>>
>>> Not many people seriously want to rejuvenate this forum, as per
>>> Brian/Walubengo’s suggestion…?
>>>
>>> Cannot imagine the forum becoming a good case study one day for some
>>> thesis student. Whose research titles among others:-
>>> ·         “How-to-kill a good forum, kick it into the dustbin and leave
>>> it for the dead”
>>> ·         “The rise and rise, and fall and fall of a myriad of many ICT
>>> forums in Kenya, the major one being….
>>> ·         “How-not-to build structural resilience and offer strategic
>>> leadership”. Why the big forum went M.I.A, and petered out..
>>> ·         And the final one perhaps, “ Do not repeat the mistakes
>>> listed above, time for a RESET..”!
>>>
>>> Certainly, unless otherwise – we might be headed for such a case study.
>>> Not sure if I should patent the titles, just in case..!
>>>
>>> Harry
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke[mailto:
>>> kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf
>>> Of *Brian Munyao Longwe
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 12, 2012 12:50 AM
>>> *To:* harry at comtelsys.co.ke
>>> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into the
>>> dustbin...!
>>>
>>> I think Walu is on the right track. Every organisation for-profit or
>>> not, has to reassess it's strategy, relevance, business direction and
>>> thrust periodically or risk falling into the shadows.
>>>
>>> Is it time for KICTAnet to do so?
>>>
>>> As one of the founders and a trustee I think that the time has come.
>>>
>>> My 2 shillings,
>>>
>>> Brian
>>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> @Wash,
>>>
>>> Maybe Delano is insinuating something. Perhaps KICTAnet needs to
>>> re-juvinate
>>> and re-energize. Bring in new blood and thinking. What do we want from
>>> KICTAnet, 8yrs later? What management structures, membership structures,
>>> operational, financial structures do we want to see going forward?
>>>
>>> Perhaps a brainstorming face2face session is due. I for one have been
>>> the moderator since inception and maybe someone else can do a better job
>>> and we just have not asked them to come forth. Think about it - I could
>>> have run out of ideas or some younger dot.commer <http://dot.com> may
>>> just be sitting on better ways of moderation that I have never imagined...
>>>
>>> just my 2pings.
>>>
>>> walu.
>>>
>>> --- On *Wed, 4/11/12, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com>* wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into the
>>> dustbin...!
>>> To: jwalu at yahoo.com
>>> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>> Date: Wednesday, April 11, 2012, 3:50 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 14:59, Harry Delano <harry at comtelsys.co.ke<http://mc/compose?to=harry@comtelsys.co.ke>>
>>> wrote:
>>> I’m not sure which is which, until I see some response on whether we
>>> might just as well happen to be drifting along rudderless…!!
>>>
>>>
>>> You mean the post-Easter stupor, or??
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>> Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
>>> Nairobi,KE
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