[kictanet] Fwd: information on .africa and the lies surrounding an individual's push

waudo siganga emailsignet at mailcan.com
Fri Aug 20 09:40:41 EAT 2010 

Hi Agosta - ICANN positions are voluntary and pay nothing.

Waudo

On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 17:47 +0300, "Agosta Liko"
<agostal at gmail.com> wrote:

  This ICANN board ... it pays alot ?
  just wondering :)

On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Njeri
<[1]njeri.rionge at igniteconsulting.co.ke> wrote:

They are more on this very list that claim being on the board of
ICANN. That never were, not withstanding that they can be in the
future.

In my humble opinion, the rest is politic's.
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On Aug 19, 2010, at 2:39 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe
<[6]blongwe at gmail.com> wrote:

Walu,
Your point is noted, however .africa is not just another TLD - it
is in the same realm as .eu i.e. a regional domain that
represents multiple jurisdictions - in the same manner that .eu
was granted at the behest of the EU/EC - subsequent to a process
that brought forward the buy-in of major stakeholder in the EU,
including Governments, operators and local internet community -
similarly, Africa needs to have undergone a processs whereby
there is broad buy-in/consensus behind whoever it is that is
making the pitch to ICANN.
Having said that - I for one, will NEVER support anyone who tries
to gain leverage/support by using lies:
1) She has never been an ICANN board member - despite repeated
brazen claims to the office
2) She has never been given a formal (let alone written)
endorsement by the AU
3) She feels threatened by reputable and legitimate African
internet bodies and went to great lengths to sabotage AfriNIC's
proposed Addist meeting by telling lies to the government and
Ethiopia telecoms which prompted them pulling out 2 months before
the meeting. Only to find out after consultations that they have
been fed a bunch of lies and ended up losing face both at a local
and global perspective.
My two cents,
Brian
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Njeri
<[7]njeri.rionge at igniteconsulting.co.ke> wrote:

Walu, Finally common sense becomes common sense as we know it.

I opted to saying nothing before, will continue to do so. But I
needed to note some sense in the thread and urge people to read
in between the lines closely.

Cross the T's and dot the I's.

Best,

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On Aug 19, 2010, at 11:28 AM, Barrack Otieno
<[12]otieno.barrack at gmail.com> wrote:

Very democratic comments Walu :-)
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Walubengo J
<[13]jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:

I really dont know who this lady is - other than having seeing
her at the Kenyan IGF where she also pushed for the dot.Africa
initiative. Indeed as Pierre mentions elsewhere, there's a
parallel push @ [14]http://www.dotafrica.org/home.html which I
believe has the support of AfNOG, AfrNIC, AfTLD (the  Af*
organisations).
However and I stand to be corrected -  I think the ICANN process
is quite open and transparent and we therefore cannot stop any
bidder pushing to have a top level domain like dot.Africa (free
for all approach that ofcourse has had its advantages and
disadvantages).
So whereas I support and understand the need have dot.africa
under the family and philosophy of Af* organisations, we really
have no control over other bidders trying to get there first.
Maybe we should just up our game and get the domain before the
competition.
walu.
disclaimer: comments shared are personal and not the view of the
organisations I am affiliated with.

--- On Wed, 8/18/10, Solomon Mburu Kamau
<[15]solo.mburu at gmail.com> wrote:

  From: Solomon Mburu Kamau <[16]solo.mburu at gmail.com>
  Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: information on .africa and the
  lies surrounding an individual's push
  To: [17]jwalu at yahoo.com
  Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"
  <[18]kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
  Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 11:34 PM


@ Njenga,
It's not really about who is onlist or not, but during the just
concluded EAIGF in Uganda one 'iron lady' has been claiming to
speak on behalf of AU and that there are some endorsements made
that she presented to this regional forum, which turned out to be
a sham!
I hope Brian my explanation is right.
On 18 August 2010 18:24, Njenga Gathecha
<[19]njenga.mkenya at gmail.com> wrote:

  Hello all. I think the best thing to do is to have all the
  members listed somewhere and then in case of doubt, listers
  can consult the list. This would ward off cons who may seek to
  exploit innocents.
  Thanks for pointing this out now.


On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe
<[20]blongwe at gmail.com> wrote:


Hi all,
Just received this. Apparently she has formally been propagating
lies about being on the ICANN board etc.... and even put up
counterfiet letters on her website - this verges on criminal!
What is her interest?
Brian
------------------------
Brian,
here is some info for you.. she constructed this whole thing on
lies. you can judge for yourself. I did not want to spam all but
I sent this to a few key people.  check this:
- there is no African Union Authority!!!! do you really believe
that the Chairman of the AU Commission will have claimed to write
on behalf of a non existent authority and give her a letter in
that sense? so maybe she should explain to people why she has a
'weird' letter on her website. Check her website and you will
see.
- here is an email that tells you how she lies! she actually took
me to the ombudsman at ICANN in 2007, complaining that I was
preventing her from doing dot africa, copied the whole board at
the time --- all her claims were immediately dismissed when I
sent the letters and emails to the ombudsman, of the same caliber
as the below that she had been sending to regional organisations
and bodies. My fault was to have written to all organisations, as
the Regional Liaison, to dismiss her claims of ICANN endorsement
of dot africa and her being on the board.
- she keeps saying ICANN is endorsing dot africa! how can ICANN
endorse a TLD?? how can ICANN be judge and party???? she is
supposed to have been at the GNSO council and ICANN and
understand what she is talking about!!!! she has been in the
ICANN process for the past 5 years and still has no idea how all
this functions.
I let you judge. The woman does not have her wits together I
think.
Cheers

Sophia Bekele <FastMail.FM WARNING: URL text and host don't
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30/08/2006 01:48 PM



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Hello <name removed>,

I hope your vacation is going well.  As per discussion, I thought
I would convey someof what is on my plate that may be of mutual
interest.

Presently, other than my private projects/business interests, I
also serve on the board of ICANN, the international internet
governance organization.  At this stage, I have outlined few
projects in addition to an initiative that could quickly put
under incubation.  Any or all of these could serve as a basis for
mutual collaboration.

Generally speaking the projects span ICT, public sector
governance, regional integration, internet governance etc..

The priority project I mentioned to UN Undersecretary General was
that of dot.africa (.Africa) which he expressed great interest.
Thus, there will be a need to synergize and align strategies of
possible project collaboration.

Dot.Africa is an initiative supported by ICANN,  that aims at
unifying and consolidating the African Information Society and
presence within the Internet as distinct from other Continental
communities.  As such, there now exists dot.EU (.EU),
dot.Asia.(.ASIA) and dot.LatinAmerica (.LA) as similar ongoing
initiatives.  The present paradigm is to halt Africans
marginalization in this age of globalization.  This is actually
one of the goals of NEPAD, which of course is an initiative that
is already endorsed b the UN.  There are no prices for guessing
what would happen if dot.Africa is not also initiated and
implemented at the same time that other Continental  communities
on the net have been put in place.

To get this of the ground, it appears from the experiences of the
others, a minimum of 13 countries in Africawould have to come on
board.  The endorsement for UNECA would of course be helpful.
This initiative would require a proposal to be distributed to the
potential participating countries.  UNECA’s help would be crucial
in communicating who might wish to participate.  Countries that
have already have ongoing National policies that relate ICT as a
strategic tool for National development would be the primary
candidates.   Being something that would turn into a Continental
initiative, it is rewarding at best for the UNECA to play an
active role in this initial stage.

As an African representative on ICANN board, I have taken the
initiative to coordinate and see the successful implementation of
the project.  I believe therefore, we should have a meeting to
progress this further.  I suggest we meet ASAP to get this
moving, as time is of essence to the extent that the application
for the domain name must be submitted before January 2007.

However due to our travel schedules, we should arrange a
teleconference meeting that is mutually convenient for all within
the next two weeks.
Regards,
Sophia

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